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Thread: Looking for a Buff Macro NON-AFK Dancer

ScoutFett
Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:07 am
#1

That's right, I plan to buff, while USING my computer, and interacting. However my macro writing skills are lacking, and I've looked on the SWG forums and only found out about how long a buff should be, about 4 mins, and other such things. But being new to the Dancer profession, I could use some help. I'm currently reading the Sticky, so don't throw that back at me, but I figure I'd post here too. All I want is the basic commands used for a macro..

is it /setperform? I'm unsure...

I'm honestly looking to LEARN how to write a good dancer macro, not planning to become some ub3r buff b0t... I make my money with Doctor buffs, so I'm not here for money, but to help prepare my guild for battles. No I don't have a jedi, and any of the other reasons I've seen to ridicule people asking for macros.


*Sorry to be an a$$ about this, I'm not this harsh and rude normally, but I've seen the replies to people asking for a macro, and know what is in store for me... but I don't plan on doing this AFK, so hopefully I can bypass all that and get a decent idea of how the macro works*

Thank you


*Male Dancers ROCK* =D



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Warryyr
Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:24 am
#2

It's not so much macros that most of us get upset about. It's the typical inclusion of wanting to have a macro letting you buff while not there. You've made it pretty clear that's not your intention. So here goes:


Call the macro BuffFlourish


/flo 1;

/flo 2;

/flo 3;

/flo 4;

/flo 5;

/pause 8;

/macro BuffFlourish


Ok, before launching this macro, do the following:


1. Get a Quickness or Stamina buff from a Doc (this macro drains your Action FAST otherwise)

2. Start dancing or playing music before firing off the macro. Won't really matter if you start this before you play or dance, but you'll get annoying system message spam of "You must be playing an instrument or dancing to perform a flourish."

3. type /dump to stop the macro at any time

4. Make sure the person you're buffing is in your group, or you do a /setperform on them after they start watching/listening. A full buff is applied in approximately 3 minutes and 10 seconds.

5. Thanks to Fragpuppie Uber for working out this delightful macro.

Aynianu
Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:25 am
#3

i have 2 seperate buttons atm.

one is /setperform (just to save me writting it)

and the other is a macro looping this:


/startdance exotic4

/flo 1

/flo 1

/flo 1

/flo 1

/flo 1

/pause 8

/macro mindbuff


(obviously calling the macro mindbuff)


I wish there was a way to do a mind buff as fast as this without using a type of macro i dont really agree with (they should really re-work the mind buff system) But at the moment people who want a buff will want it as quick as possible, and we got to compete with buff bots after all


(im thinking of doing buffs differently after they remove afk macro's and making it more of a roleplay type experiance rather than a flourish frenzy, since we wont have buff bot competition)

Warryyr
Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:35 am
#4






Aynianu wrote:

i have 2 seperate buttons atm.

one is /setperform (just to save me writting it)

and the other is a macro looping this:


/startdance exotic4

/flo 1

/flo 1

/flo 1

/flo 1

/flo 1

/pause 8

/macro mindbuff


(obviously calling the macro mindbuff)


I wish there was a way to do a mind buff as fast as this without using a type of macro i dont really agree with (they should really re-work the mind buff system) But at the moment people who want a buff will want it as quick as possible, and we got to compete with buff bots after all


(im thinking of doing buffs differently after they remove afk macro's and making it more of a roleplay type experiance rather than a flourish frenzy, since we wont have buff bot competition)





Actually, it's not too bad to do this manually. People won't notice the difference between 3 minutes 10 seconds and 3 minutes 20 seconds. Most bots I've seen go for 4 minutes to account for inattentiveness on the buffee's part.


I sometimes just set an alarm for 3 minutes, then hit my flourish keys (F1-8 on my hotkeys) and do F1 through F5. Then I count 8 seconds, and redo it. Until the alarm goes off. Then I go through another couple times, and you're done.



Aynianu
Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:38 am
#5

If i had to use flourishes manually for a mind buff id probably not do mind buffs at all to be honest

Id prefer to chat than mash keys :/

ScoutFett
Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:56 am
#6

Awesome! Thank you for the info, now this is more of a "w.t.f. how do they..." I see a buff bot in Coronet cantina all the time, with 800 visible action, that does the afk buff thing, but i don't activly see the person healing themselves. When I dance I *HAVE* to buff quickness otherwise I'm standing still really quick, LOL. I plan to work out a macro with the stuff provided here. I may just buff for 4 mins, b/c if the buff bots do it that way, and people are willing to use them, I don't see why I should buff any faster, and I may readjust after I learn what works and what doesn't. But where would the timer go? I want to write in a "self tell" that lets me know their time is up.

Once I get my macro set up and "working" I may repost here for comments and ways to make it better.

Thank you all for your help!

Oh, and what would be a good attire for a male dancer (I saw the other thread, but didn't really get a good idea of what would make a good outfit) Right now I'm a shirtless muscular zabrak, with a long black skirt. Ladies lol



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501st Expeditionary Force - XFOR

Else-Whira
Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:59 am
#7

Human characters can set their stats so that they don't need to use any kind of buff to dance or play music uniterupted while flourishing and using effects....

The rest of us need to use food buffs or doctor buffs to perform tha same way

At one time one of my dancer characters had a spice addiction (that was kind of fun to play haha!)





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ScoutFett
Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:01 am
#8



Else-Whira wrote:
Human characters can set their stats so that they don't need to use any kind of buff to dance or play music uniterupted while flourishing and using effects....

The rest of us need to use food buffs or doctor buffs to perform tha same way

At one time one of my dancer characters had a spice addiction (that was kind of fun to play haha!)




So the fact that I'm a zabrak makes it so I *need* a buff to dance, argh!! oh well... that doesn't make sense, but oh well.



-=Solaris=-
501st Expeditionary Force - XFOR

Aynianu
Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:14 am
#9

I know its sad. but im Twilek Dancer/Doctor on my alt JUST so i can buffher quickness

Groovymarlin
Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:55 am
#10

Scout, if you try drinking accarragm before buffing that should help. Most chefs can make it so you can drink two of them, and that buffs your stamina/quickness for about 45 minutes or so. I find that's plenty to allow me to do multiple mind buffs.

The macros given above are excellent. Use any dance or flourishes you want. For some real numbers and insight, look to the "Hard Numbers on Buffing" post which is linked in the dancer's sticky here. Fascinating details on the actual buff formula.

Oh, and remember, you don't HAVE to be grouped with someone to give a buff. You can just do /setperform on them and buffing will work fine (as long as they are watching you, from the radial menu or /watch). Lots of folks accustomed to buffbots think that grouping is required. It's not. However, you can group with up to 19 other people and buff them all at the same time, as long as they watch; no /setperform required in that case.



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DarkY0da
Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:06 am
#11

You can make buffing macros that look good as a dance. Not the easiest thing to do but do-able.

/alarmaddin 0 03 Buff Done.
/p 200
/echo Buff Done.

Now what that will do is after 3 minutes the alarm will go off and "Buff Done" will show up as a System msg.

the /echo will put "Buff Done." into what ever chat screen you have up. The /p 200 makes it wait 3 minutes and 20 seconds.
I would then go in and make it so that the words "Buff Done." show up as a bright color that is easier for you to see.

As for as getting buffed. Accaragm is good enough most of the time. Or two shots of it. You can find stuff that lasts for 40+ minutes.

I tend to put the Buff Done macro in one toolbar slot. I just click it after I have done /setp and started buffing someone. If I'm doing group buffs then I just hit the Buff Done macro after I have made sure the person is watching or listening. Makes it easier to keep track of when the different people get done, while doing a group buff. Or I just /echo "Name" Buff Done. to keep track of who gets done when.



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Ka_ren
Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:11 am
#12

Don't forget, there are stat migrations too. I maxed out my quickenss. That and two shots of acca usually do the trick. And usually there is someone there who can heal. Dabbling a bit in medic myself, I am always happy to heal a fellow dancer.



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Aynianu
Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:29 pm
#13







Tiaga wrote:
Buffing by hand really isn't that hard. Hardly button mashing. It's about equivelent to typing 5-6wpm. However it is not something I expect everyone would want to do when there is an alternative.

For those who want to give it a try, here's a few tips:

Practice hand flourishing even when not buffing. It may be a pain at first, but given practice, it becomes something easy to do without having to think about it.

You can do 5 flourishes between every time it tells you that you get dancing experience. If you are capped in experience you might consider doing the theater quests, visiting the village or dropping and retraining a dancer box to get you below that point. If you are capped, there is no indication when the next set of flourishes can come.

I use a set it and forget it timer macro so I don't have to try and figure out who a timer is set for, or take time to tell them the buff is done. The macro takes care of sending the right person a /tell. Very handy when doing a number of people.

That's the basics to buffing by hand. Some more advanced tips:

When you just start buffing someone, you will see a small trickle of healing xp as long as you don't flourish. This could be anywhere from 2 to 7 per person being buffed, depending on the dance you are performing. It goes away after a few flourishes. This can be useful to make sure they really are watching you and the buff will work, before you spend 3 minutes with them watching someone else.

If you like to keep a performance going, one thing I will do is if I know the flourish I'm doing is coming to an end, I'll only do 4 flourishes instead of 5, and use the 5th to actually flourish.

With a bit of practice and understanding what is going on, buffing by hand can be much more reliable than by macro.





Generally i chat a lot, in spatial and in tells, ive been master dancer for about a year and a half.

i used to flourish once after every tick of exp, to the point i could do it while chatting it was so second nature (first time i mastered i never used a looping macro, as i was too scared to ask for one incase people thought i would use it to afk with) but when master and finally got a looping macro, and later on buff macro, i got used to them, i kept the macro on and just chatted.

Now i only keep a special effects macro looping to stop me going Link Dead. I dont flourish unless buffing because i dont like the fall animation 'that' much that i just cant bare to see it anymore.

With the removal of recursive macros comming. Il try to get used to doing buffsmanually again or just have a 5 flourish spam assigned toa hotkey i just press once every 8 seconds. and i can just press a special effect or flourish instead of having a looping macro to keep me in game (just chatting doesnt seem to keep me in game)

Just thinking about the removal of afk entertaining has me all tingly, il have to end my post there.

EDIT : oooh i like your buff timer Tiaga

Message Edited by Aynianu on 01-10-2005 02:32 PM

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