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Hi

Had a fun situation yesterday.
I was in Coronet (playing ATK), trying to get some XP to learn the Western Song, while waiting for an invite to the Entertainer group (it was full at that time).

Well I got an invite suddenly, and thought it was the group, so I accepted. Turned out it was some jerk who thought i'm a buffbot and just invited me for a buff.
Disbanded the group and /deny him. Well he just walked over to the next and did the same.

Later I thought it would have been fun to stay in group, pretend I'm a buffbot and buff him. Bet he'd just had loved my 5% Music buff for 2 hours, and hear him accuse me of grieving him with worthless buffs

Sorry, just had to share that story

I don’t see how giving someone a small buff could be considered grieving
Well at least not if the power of the buff expected is not discussed beforehand
If he asked you first what kind of buff you give and you answered let’s say.. “125% for 2 hours” and gave him 5% then maybe.. but the way the buffs are buggy I still don’t see how it could be a reportable offence.
Sure it would be wrong from a moral point of view but lately I’m starting to wonder if morals have any room in this game, because it sure looks like those who have moral values tend to be on the loosing side, very sad but true.

Deli'ah

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Petronela wrote:
I don’t see how giving someone a small buff could be considered grieving
Well at least not if the power of the buff expected is not discussed beforehand
If he asked you first what kind of buff you give and you answered let’s say.. “125% for 2 hours” and gave him 5% then maybe.. but the way the buffs are buggy I still don’t see how it could be a reportable offence.
Sure it would be wrong from a moral point of view but lately I’m starting to wonder if morals have any room in this game, because it sure looks like those who have moral values tend to be on the loosing side, very sad but true.

Deli'ah

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I agree this wouldn't be grieving in my opinion. I disagree that the moral high ground is a losing situation. I have very high moral standards that I apply consistently. I find that it attracts the good people to you giving you the kind of friends you want. Once you have those you can simply wade through the rest of the rabble with your friends and have a good, honest time while totally oblivious to the rest of the idiots.

I'd be more likely to consider the griefing to be sending unsolicited group requests in the first place.

Well the question wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

He never said anything, and I responded with about as many words.

I'm just saying that HE might have called it's grieving.

Hell, I was called an Exploiter for killing Tier 3 ships as Master Pilot, just because someone else wasn't fast enough.

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Petronela wrote:
I don’t see how giving someone a small buff could be considered grieving
Well at least not if the power of the buff expected is not discussed beforehand
If he asked you first what kind of buff you give and you answered let’s say.. “125% for 2 hours” and gave him 5% then maybe.. but the way the buffs are buggy I still don’t see how it could be a reportable offence.
Sure it would be wrong from a moral point of view but lately I’m starting to wonder if morals have any room in this game, because it sure looks like those who have moral values tend to be on the loosing side, very sad but true.

Deli'ah

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Call it 105% buffs ... if you look at it the right way, it's even true, you're buffing so that the new value is 105% of the original...

I think that's funny

it's in no way your fault, you weren't doing false advertisement or anything, and he invited you (not the other way around). maybe next time he'll learn

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Coreena wrote:
Bet he'd just had loved my 5% Music buff for 2 hours, and hear him accuse me of grieving him with worthless buffs

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1. Novice: 10%


2. Tech 1: 20%


3. Tech 2: 30%


4. Tech 3: 50%


5. Tech 4: 75%

So you couldn't have given him a 5% buff unless you had something that would reduce your buff strength (does such a thing actually exist?)... it would have been funny anyway and his own fault too.

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Landlubber wrote:

The numbers you quoted are the max values reachable at that tier, but actual quality of your buff can be influenced. Buff duration is determined by how long you perform (well, to be precise actually by how long your customer watches/listens), and buff quality (i.e. percentage increase) mostly by how many flourishes you do in that time.

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No, thats not correct.
Buff Strenght is determined by your Dance Mind ENhanceing skill (or Music Mind Enhancing) alone. A Master will never manage to buff below 100%, it can be more with tapes, but never lower. You can try it out sometimes

Buff duration is determined by the number of, lets call them Buff-Ticks. Each Buff-Tick increases the duration by 2 minutes. So you need 60 of those Ticks to get a full 2 hour buff.
As Buff-Ticks count: Flourishes and the automatic tick every 10 seconds (when you loose Action and gain XP).
Duration of perfoming just comes into play because you can only do 5 flourishes per 10 seconds.
Plus the 10 seconds tick, that is 6 Buff-Ticks per 10 seconds applied. To get 60 ticks you need to dance 100 seconds minimum, simply because you CAN'T apply those 60 ticks any faster.

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Coreena wrote:

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Landlubber wrote:

The numbers you quoted are the max values reachable at that tier, but actual quality of your buff can be influenced. Buff duration is determined by how long you perform (well, to be precise actually by how long your customer watches/listens), and buff quality (i.e. percentage increase) mostly by how many flourishes you do in that time.

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No, thats not correct.
Buff Strenght is determined by your Dance Mind ENhanceing skill (or Music Mind Enhancing) alone. A Master will never manage to buff below 100%, it can be more with tapes, but never lower. You can try it out sometimes

Buff duration is determined by the number of, lets call them Buff-Ticks. Each Buff-Tick increases the duration by 2 minutes. So you need 60 of those Ticks to get a full 2 hour buff.
As Buff-Ticks count: Flourishes and the automatic tick every 10 seconds (when you loose Action and gain XP).
Duration of perfoming just comes into play because you can only do 5 flourishes per 10 seconds.
Plus the 10 seconds tick, that is 6 Buff-Ticks per 10 seconds applied. To get 60 ticks you need to dance 100 seconds minimum, simply because you CAN'T apply those 60 ticks any faster.

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Bleh, you're of course correct. Sorry, no idea what I was thinking...