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Thread: Info from Fanfest

Esharra
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:57 pm
#1

Reports from those who were able to attend Fanfest this year are starting to trickle in. If you attended or see a post from someone who attended, and have any new info related to Entertainers, please post here. Please keep in mind that most player interpretation is going to be strictly speculation and whatever devs may have said has been filtered by the player's perspective.


masselin posted the following on the Jedi forum (clicky):


entertainers, dancer and musicians
the entertainer professions are being looked at to see how they can adapt to be more useful now than they were before the cu. currently, they aren't very usefull regarding battle fatigue or of course healing mind wounds or buffing mind and musician is no different from dancer.


As you can see, this isn't news to us. But I think having one thread to put this kind of stuff in is preferable to having a new thread for each post mentioning entertainers that someone makes on a different forum.


If any of you DID make it to Fanfest this year, I hope you will share any info you gleaned..not to mention pictures and indepth descriptions of any barroom action!!

Message Edited by Esharra on 06-04-2005 03:59 PM



Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)


Warryyr
Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:22 pm
#2


NEWS!!!


This just in...



So, I just went to Lok Pirate Radio, broadcasting from Fan Fest, and they were talking to a Dev, and I went into the chat, and I asked about Entertainers (of course lol).



The DJ asked my question, so I thought I'd pass along what was said.



The Dev (Jeff) said that we'll be getting profession-specific buffs, which would let Entertainers give buffs to benefit different professions. An example that was brought up was that a Rifleman could listen to a Musician or watch a Dancer, and get some bonuses (like maybe accuracy) for their specific profession, rather than just the general xp buffs that Inspiration buffs provide.



Also, he said they were working on making things more fun for us, or something along those lines.


I wish he'd said more, but was ecstatic he answered my question.



A second question I put up about buffbots and problems that could result from removing recursive macros was put up right before they ran out of time. D'oh!



Still, I'd like to thank Jeff for talking a little bit about Entertainers - and the way he talked about us made me feel we could be in for some good, fun stuff. And hopefully we'll be able to do some cool buffs soon that folks will find pretty handy.

Message Edited by Warryyr on 06-04-2005 06:22 PM

Message Edited by Warryyr on 06-04-2005 06:23 PM

Warryyr
Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:27 pm
#3

Someone else also asked how non-combatants can fit into more quests, and the GCW.


I think he mostly focused on the GCW, saying it was up for another GCW revamp, and he made it seem like it was a priority.


Hopefully we'll be seeing some more encouragement to take part in the GCW!


Chessack
Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:35 pm
#4

What bothers me about statements like "Entertainers are being looked at" is that it implies that the powers-that-be don't know what they are doing. Not a surprise, but rather disappointing nonetheless.

C



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Dejah Thoris
Dancer, Musician, Image Designer
Kor Spera, Corellia, Naritus
Esharra
Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:17 pm
#5






Chessack wrote:
What bothers me about statements like "Entertainers are being looked at" is that it implies that the powers-that-be don't know what they are doing. Not a surprise, but rather disappointing nonetheless.

C



Again..this was phrased and posted by a player..not a dev. I don't know that it is verbatim.Considering thatthe player was much more verbose regarding professions in which he holds a vested interest, I'm notinvesting a great expectation of accuracy in it.



Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)


Schardour
Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:24 pm
#6

And if they are just trying to understand us at the moment? I'd still say that's ok. We're playing in a work-in-progress, so I'm alright with the fact that they're still studying us, and still "looking at" possible directions for our profession.


I just want the attention. (That should go in my sig. )







T
IL KISMETA

lTlSlCl
A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable,
but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.
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Also...Tayel [PLD]

Chessack
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:30 pm
#7


Schardour wrote:

We're playing in a work-in-progress, so I'm alright with the fact that they're still studying us, and still "looking at" possible directions for our profession.





You know... and this is no offense meant to you personally, but more directed at the devleopers...

I am getting tired of hearing the "work in progress" line. If this is still a work in progress and not a finished product then why the heck am I paying for it?

If you ordered 100 cable stations from your cable company for a fixed rate per month, and 30 of them were static for months, would you continue to pay the rate? And would you find it acceptable that they said to you, "Our service is still a work in progress?" No you would not. You would either demand a refund or a discount in the service fee, and the company would certainly provide it.

I understand that the CU changes basically HAD to hose the rest of us, because so much was altered. I understand that for various reasons they had to push that live without making adjustments to everyone else. However, that said... where's my rebate for the fact that they haven't "finished" with the professions I play? (And not just one of them either -- several of them on 2 accounts, since I'm foolish enough to have 2 accounts, which of course is my own damn fault, I realize.)

The problem is not that things aren't working, but that I'm being not just asked, but expected, to endure probably months and months of paying for an incomplete service, and expected to smile and be all nicey-nice about it. And I'm sorry but after 2 years of this... my patience is starting to run out.

Here's my suggestion. SOE can take as long as they want to fix entertainers. Hell, they can make "eventually" turn into "never" if they want. In the meantime, until they FIX my chosen profession... let me play for free.

Sound reasonable? I think so, actually. If they're going to break what I do in the game, then don't charge me to play it.

C



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Dejah Thoris
Dancer, Musician, Image Designer
Kor Spera, Corellia, Naritus
Drygo
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:49 pm
#8

heh...Chessack. I completely agree with you. It's been two years."Being looked into"is no longer a validexcuse. Everything you say is correct.


Having said that, the majority of times these days I'm not playing nicey-nice because I'm expected to, nor am I doing it because they think they deserve it. They don't. Period. However, I mostly play nicey-nice these days because I want something, and I realize the only chance I have of getting it is to pretend and to manipulate.


Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do for the greater good.





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Schardour
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:15 pm
#9


Yeah....I'm just not paying until it gets fixed, and therefore not playing. After the Cantina Crawl, I'm gone again. (Likely for good. I've spent a good portion of my day ingame today, and, aside from Kashyyyk, which I haven't bought, nothing of substance has been enhanced in the game. Combat is basically the same. Buggy. A few speeders and pointless loot items have been added, but those are basically 'goodies.' Crafting and the economy basically took the nose-dive from hell... Where's the content? The passion? The community-building tools? The challenges? They havestructural issues with the foundation, and they're settinga vase anddecorationson the unsteady table in the guest bedroom. Why?)


I'm just saying that I'm glad they're still looking into the entertainer professions, because things aren't going well elsewhere in the game, and we really areless of a priority in the eyes of smart management teams. We're a minority, really. (I know we weren't originally the absolute minority, but I think leaving the basic design flaws in the game for such a long time has taken a toll on our numbers.) Honestly, I'd rather hear them tell us to find another game than to lie about our revamp being around the corner. Hopefully, they are actually looking into our core roles, and forming an action plan.


And hopefully they let us alpha test these changes....so we can let them know whether or not they're going to work.


Message Edited by Schardour on 06-05-2005 01:23 AM




T
IL KISMETA

lTlSlCl
A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable,
but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.
XzXzXzXzX
Also...Tayel [PLD]

Shaizann
Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:13 pm
#10

"All I want is frickin' dancers with frickin' laser beams on their heads!"



Shailas V. Zann
Elder Grand Master Entertainer



"Guess what!?! I gotta fever!....And the only prescription is more cowbell."
Warryyr
Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:31 pm
#11






Shaizann wrote:

"All I want is frickin' dancers with frickin' laser beams on their heads!"




Is that so much to ask? Throw me a frickin' bone here, people...

Tralmek
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:06 pm
#12

/holoemote bullhorns




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Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:20 pm
#13






Tralmek wrote:
/holoemote bullhorns




Oooh.. You just gavem me something to add to my wishlist... Unlimited used of holo emotes for Dancers and Musicians!



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