Dancer Archive
Thread: Poll: Skill Point Investment (yeah..again :P)
Message Edited by Kyree-Sunrunner on 10-31-2005 09:30 PM
Kyree-Sunrunner wrote:
JetStrike wrote:
I am in favor of partial skill point reduction.
in addition, as something to think about, having novice entertainer cost 0 skill points for twi'leks. or an innate twiliek dance that only twileks know or something.
Needless to say, as I have Mon Cal/Ithorian/Bothan dancer alts... I think making dance 0 skill points should be for ALL races. We've seen dancers in the movies that were not twi'lek.
The idea of a dance that only certain races can do has merit. I don't think any non-amphibious race could do the dance that the Mon Cal dancers were doing in Revenge of the Sith... and twi'lek dances that involved lekku movement would not be doable by other races.
The more this subject gets talked about, the more I think that if they can't give us a way to make similar money that combat types or crafters can make... then dance and music should cost 0 skill points. Image designers could be considered crafters, they have a viable, lasting service that people are willing to pay for.
If they keep the skill point requirement in, then entertainer terminal missions should pay like regular terminals. Instead of Combat level, have Entertainer level.
An EL1 entertainer should make what a CL1 combat type can make. Master entertainer should make the same money as a Master Marksman on the terminals. They would suppliment that income by giving buffs, just as the Master Marksman can suppliment their income by selling loot drops.
A master dancer or musician, should be able to make the same credits that a master rifleman can make from the terminals, supplimenting that income as described above. A master ent/master dancer, should be able to pull missions similar to a CL80 combat character.
We pay the same monthly fee as everyone else. If we can't experience the combat content, we should at least be able to make enough credits to be able to purchase some of the loot, without feeling like beggars.
Message Edited by Kyree-Sunrunner on 10-31-2005 09:31 PM
Hmm, well, I think a few of you already know my opinion on this.
I think a moderate skill point adjustment would be useful to allow for a double elite combat mastery (not hybrid) and two lines ofeither dancer or musician. Saveeffective buffing for the people who wish to dedicate themselves to the profession but allow people to dabble if they'd like to.
One of my biggest concerns with removing skill points entirelyis that for people who no longer enjoy the other aspects of the game (loot whoring... any others?) and who choose only toentertain will no longer recieve the attention that they want (and need).
Message Edited by showmercy on 10-31-2005 05:41 PM
Kyree-Sunrunner wrote:
Hi. You obviously don't know me, dear. I have been an entertainer since the second week of release. I was one of the ones who stayed positive for a VERY VERY long time, during all the changes that have rained down on us. I don't post often, and I'm not one of those gloom and doom types.
I NEVER begged for tips, in fact, I am one of the people who spoke out in the early days of the "tip me, heal me" macros that afkers were using. I am also one of the ones with a decent amount of credits in my account. For SOME people, making money and being able to buy game items is part of the fun. Not having to depend on other players for one's income is a good thing.
I have friends who took me along on all those things that you've been on... but, I even I could tell that I wasn't really contributing to the group, other than making people laugh and making some feel good about keeping me out of trouble. Probably very worthy contributions, but...
Dying isn't really a problem, I could care less about item rot, and wounds are easily enough healed.
This thread is open for opinions regarding the skill point expenditure. You opinion is as valid as mine. If everyone in the forums voices their opinions, then perhaps something that appeals to everyone will come out of it.
I *have* moved on from entertaining with one alt, because of things mentioned by MANY people in various threads about the 'worth' of entertaining. However, I still have 3 of my 4 avatars as entertainers, and I still enjoy them very much and hope that things will get better for entertainers in the future.
Well you obviously dont know me either , just because my registered date is recent doesnt mean I haven't been playing as long as you . I have 4 full template Entertainers on 4 different servers and none of them are considered fluff by my peers. I work hard at what I do and am appreciated for the contributions I have made to the game as a player. I regularly get invited to combat events not out of sympathy but because people want to have me in thier group no more no less and because I am enthusiastic about everything I do in this game. I am not a charity case quite the opposite in fact I have started many new players off on this adventure with items and cash and advice.
I dont see what the fuss is all about you choose your profession and play it, if you are unhappy you move on to another or even swap games If you feel you cant enjoy the game as a hybrid perhaps you should create another account or another character on a different server you can have up to 8 not counting TC . I dont think this game or any MMORPG was designed to play solo but is an opportunity to meet and interact with others . If I can stand in the DWB and join in at lvl 1 then how cant a cl 50+ you just have to realise you wont be Uber but I will outlast some cl 80 players because of experience not levels.
If Entertainers become zero skill point professions that is it we will get ZERO additions from that point on guaranteed just look at politicians what have they had since zero skill points the only exception to this is pilots and even they didnt get any content at all in Toow.
If there is a reduction in Skill points for Entertainers then we will need to beg for money as the profession will no longer be viable in any way shape or form as everyone will buff themselves with alts or guildies and not have to bother finding someone to inspire them. Unless of course they get rid of AFK play and then only the real Entertainers will want to play.
my 3 cents
Alphessa
You are entitled to your crass, arrogant, belittling, ignorant, limited and totally wrong opinion. How bout affording the rest of us the same luxury.
Alphessa wrote:
People who say that Entertaining is not a viable profession havent played the role other than standing in one spot moaning about how few customers they see.
Alphessa
Message Edited by TheSillyOne on 11-01-2005 08:47 AM
TheSillyOne wrote:
You are entitled to your crass, arrogant, belittling, ignorant, limited and totally wrong opinion. How bout affording the rest of us the same luxury.
Alphessa wrote:
People who say that Entertaining is not a viable profession haven't played the role other than standing in one spot moaning about how few customers they see.
Alphessa
Message Edited by TheSillyOne on 11-01-2005 08:47 AM
TheSillyOne wrote:
You are entitled to your crass, arrogant, belittling, ignorant, limited and totally wrong opinion. How bout affording the rest of us the same luxury.
Alphessa wrote:
People who say that Entertaining is not a viable profession havent played the role other than standing in one spot moaning about how few customers they see.Alphessa
Message Edited by TheSillyOne on 11-01-2005 08:47 AM
Thank you for your post Silly. When I deleted all my comments from this thread, it was because I felt as if I was being attacked for daring to have an opinion on this subject. Your reply assures me that I was not overreacting.