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Thread: POLL: AFK Play

chSoup
Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:43 am
#92

This is a mute point about afk

think you should do a poll and how many dance will stay after CU




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Xoreshear
Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:37 am
#93



1. Do you leave the keyboard while your avatar is dancing?


For a bio break yes, or emergency. I never log in and then purposefully leave an avatar dancing.




2. What do you think is an acceptable amount of time to leave an avatar unattended while dancing?


Ideally? None, however life happens. I would say for bio breaks and whatnot 5-10mins tops. If I know I am going to be gone greater than this time, I will sit the character down, or more likely log.



3. Would you be willing to give up any degree of unattended play beyond the 15 minutes for the AFK flag to appear above your head.


Yes. I have had two master dancers all done with atk play. This character is ahybrid based on a RP concept. On the bottomline I wanted a character that could solo/grouphunt, mission and entertain.


I might add, I do not use those god aweful begging or/say macroseither.

Message Edited by Xoreshear on 04-14-2005 05:43 AM



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Trellgar
Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:07 am
#94

I ran into this the other day, thought you all might get a kick out of this.
Kinda makes us feel like the red headed step child huh?


Over 700 Exploiters? No Thanks.
Sony Online has continued efforts since launch to keep the EverQuestII game world free of players who use exploits to gain an unfair advantage, especially with bots and macros. Over 700 accounts were banned for various forms of cheating and exploiting during the past 2 weeks alone. It is our goal to continue investigations into suspicious in-game activity and ban accounts with violations.

"We'd like to thank our EverQuest II customers for all of their reports in rounding up these crews, and helping us show them they're not welcome in Norrath," said EverQuest II Senior Producer Scott Hartsman. "A few hundred 'bot subscriptions just aren't worth the money when compared to keeping the game fun for hundreds of thousands of people."



Trellgar
sarahwojo
Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:25 am
#95



1. Do you leave the keyboard while your avatar is dancing?


*hangs head in shame* I have, but never, ever, everin the cantina, so as not to take business away from the ATK dancers. When I was just starting out, I got tired of looking at my low level dances, so I AFKdanced in my house to get new ones. And I haven't even done that in a looooong while.


2. What do you think is an acceptable amount of time to leave an avatar unattended while dancing?


While I'm in the cantina, I only ever leave to take a bathroom break or grab a glass of water, and I always announce that I'm leaving for a second. Anything longer than that, and I just sit my butt down and flip on the AFK tag.


3. Would you be willing to give up any degree of unattended play beyond the 15 minutes for theAFK flag to appear above your head?


Anything to rid the world of buffbots and AFK dancers who spam for tips.

Message Edited by sarahwojo on 04-14-2005 10:43 AM



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Risharra
Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:49 am
#96




1. I have, but I didn't spam, and almost always moved to a back room away from the other hopefully live dancers. I do try to be at the keyboard for the most part. I'm not proud of it, but i'm not going to lie about it.


2. 15 - 30 minutes (this is hoping the devs change xp and all that,) honestly I don't have a huge problem with afk'ing on a limited basis, if people would just not spam and move out of the main area with their afk tags up. shoot me, set me on fire, it's my opinion. I do hate buff botting and spamming if you are at the key board or not. If you are afk more than you are there....that should be telling you something though.)


3. I would agree to it, but I would hope before it gets inforced they would change things to make mindless grinding unnecessary. I love dancing, but leveling is another story.


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Message Edited by Risharra on 04-14-2005 08:50 AM

Message Edited by Risharra on 04-14-2005 08:52 AM

Buttonmasher
Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:13 am
#97



1. Do you leave the keyboard while your avatar is dancing? No. Anyone that knows me knows that I dislike AFK entertainers, and I know that with my luck one of my friends/guildies would catch me while AFK . But besides that, I don't use macros, so it would be pointless for me to try. Needless to say, it's taking me forever to gain xp.


2. What do you think is an acceptable amount of time to leave an avatar unattended while dancing? I would say enough time to take care of minor emergencies, potty breaks, etc. Maybe 15-20 minutes. If anything is going to take longer than that, I think the dancershould stop dancing, and if possible, move to a corner or away from other dancers/musicians. I understand there are circumstances that don't allow you the time to do this (something catches on fire, medical emergencies, etc.), but in general, I think it's a good rule to follow.


3. Would you be willing to give up any degree of unattended play beyond the 15 minutes for theAFK flag to appear above your head. Absolutely. Since I don't use macros, unattended dancing isn't something I'm personally concerned with.




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Drygo
Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:30 am
#98






Trellgar wrote:
I ran into this the other day, thought you all might get a kick out of this.
Kinda makes us feel like the red headed step child huh?


Over 700 Exploiters? No Thanks.
Sony Online has continued efforts since launch to keep the EverQuestII game world free of players who use exploits to gain an unfair advantage, especially with bots and macros. Over 700 accounts were banned for various forms of cheating and exploiting during the past 2 weeks alone. It is our goal to continue investigations into suspicious in-game activity and ban accounts with violations.

"We'd like to thank our EverQuest II customers for all of their reports in rounding up these crews, and helping us show them they're not welcome in Norrath," said EverQuest II Senior Producer Scott Hartsman. "A few hundred 'bot subscriptions just aren't worth the money when compared to keeping the game fun for hundreds of thousands of people."





Hmm, instead of bringing over the EQ2 combat team, they should have instead brought over the team that made policy.



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MusicalDina
Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:06 am
#99

1. I never afked. It is possible to get master, as you have seen from responses before, without going afk for over 5 minutes. Sure it takes a little bit longer, but in the end you do the same stuff anyways so whats the big rush. Enjoy the time you have leveling and gaining skills.


2. 5-10 mins. Anything longer and you arent playing the game, anything shorter and you begin to become annoying with the afk flag- you can go 5-10 minutes without doing stuff and still be atk lol.


3. The question was worded wierd. I would give up the ability to do anything while flagged afk in a heart beat. I dont ever go afk doing anything anyways. (as a addition to this i would allow a new flag (busy) so that it can autoreply tells with sorry im busy atm and cannot respond messages.)





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LiTo-SWE
Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:14 pm
#100

1. Do you leave the keyboard while your avatar is playing music?
Answer: Yes


2. What do you think is an acceptable amount of time to leave an avatar unattended while playing music?
Answer: Maximum 5 minutes (you do need to answer the phone or go to the bathroom sometime.)


3. Would you be willing to give up any degree of unattended play beyond the 15 minutes for the AFK flag to appear above your head.
Answer: Yes, Unattended play is evil and need to be fixed asap.


Colonel Lito Esi
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Message Edited by LiTo-SWE on 04-14-2005 09:15 AM

Gorbu
Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:48 pm
#101


1. Do you leave the keyboard while your avatar is playing music?


yes

2. What do you think is an acceptable amount of time to leave an avatar unattended while playing music?


I believe that AFK entertainers enhance the game and make it possible for non-entertainers to have a better experience. Try finding entertainers to get buffs who are live. I play on a bunch of different servers and some are almost impossible to find.

3. Would you be willing to give up any degree of unattended play beyond the 15 minutes for the AFK flag to appear above your head.


I will drop the profession if unable to AFK. Or if I can't use macros to run my flourishes when I am live, I will drop the profession. I know that I am in the minority here but with the CU, it sounds like we will be so pointless that I am not sure what benefit we will bring to the game. Making Musician harder to play by forcing me to do all my flourishes by hand just isn't worth it. And if buffs retain any value, I can assure you that the vast majority of players who are the fighters are going to complain pretty loudly if buffs go away because you can't find any entertainers.



psikobunny
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:56 pm
#102






Gorbu wrote:


Try finding entertainers to get buffs who are live. I play on a bunch of different servers and some are almost impossible to find.




[apologies in advance, I know this is an official poll and not a discussion thread, but I can't let this slide]



Since the AFKbots were the prime cause that drove live entertainers out of the cantinas, this argument is circular and invalid. AFKers drove us out, and we're fighthing to drive you out in turn. We should provide a service to non-entertainers, but we should also have a valid play choice and style of our own. The cantinas are meant to be a place for entertainers to entertain, not fight robots, that's the DWB. It's not like Live entertainers all gave up, and the Bots came to fill the empty cantinas. Your words ring false, rethink them.




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DevynnD
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:46 pm
#103


1. Do you leave the keyboard while your avatar is playing music?


Once every hr, I actually take a break to stretch my legs, use the bathroom, get somethign to drink, ect.



2. What do you think is an acceptable amount of time to leave an avatar unattended while playing music?


5-10 mins max, depending on how many people are in the cantina (Less people = more time, More people = less time)

3. Would you be willing to give up any degree of unattended play beyond the 15 minutes for the AFK flag to appear above your head.


IMHO, Take AFK out of the game!




I felt a great disturbance in the Game, as if Thousands of players suddenly cried out in terror and suddenly quit.
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Former 14pt. Master Artisan/12 pt. Tailor/Merchant
Zilod
Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:54 am
#104









Aleyo wrote:
Just curious to see where we stand on this topic. This poll was started by Esharra on the Dancer forum, and it was suggested we have our own happening here on Musician; I'll combine my results with Esharra's when it's time to tally everything up.

1. Do you leave the keyboard while your avatar is playing music?


never



2. What do you think is an acceptable amount of time to leave an avatar unattended while playing music?


I think that when someone have to go AFK he have to sit and stop performing, also it could happen something unexpected that force a player to go AFK for a very short time, that can be ok, but should be nothing more than just a couple of mins.

3. Would you be willing to give up any degree of unattended play beyond the 15 minutes for the AFK flag to appear above your head.


15 mins is even too much IMO, 5 mins should be enought


AFKers killed this profession (and other entertainer ones), is not just a problem of income for "missing" buffs, but for me is mostly what cantinas have become witht hem... more than an year ago it was nice to play in cantinas, to group with other performers to do some nice music, to chat with them and with people that come to heal their mind.


Cantinas where very friendly places andwas fun to play a musician even if the income was not very high.


Now all that atmosphere is gone, the halls (or better the entrace) is full of zombie AFKers and buffbots and people don't stop anymore chatting a bit and enjoying the company of other player but they just come in, enter in the bot group for 5mins (maybe goin afk) and it's done.


....everything done to prevent AFK play is good.







Message Edited by Zilod on 04-15-2005 04:23 PM

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