Dancer Archive

Thread: will the new buffs just bring back the bots?

Reachwind
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:17 am
#40



Panthu wrote:
The point is, to continue to bring up this or any other statement by a dev anywhere in any form and use it as a way to say "look, look, they lie!!! we can't trust them!!!" does absolutely nothing to help us as a community and does a great deal to hurt us.





That's kind of the way I and a few others feel about your flaming on anyone who dares to speak out about the poor state of the professions. Two sides of the same coin.
Panthu
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:23 am
#41






Reachwind wrote:

That's kind of the way I and a few others feel about your flaming on anyone who dares to speak out about the poor state of the professions. Two sides of the same coin.





That is totally out of touch. If you think I don't believe we have issues, you are wrong. I talk about Dancer issues a lot. Sorry you don't notice that.


I don't flame anyone for talking about issues. I rarely flame anyone, if I do it's usually a bot. I feel very strongly about how the nasty habit of dev bashing has affected this community and I will continue to speak strongly on that for as long as I am posting here and see it happening.


Your accusation is false.




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Ikewe
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:57 am
#42

I don't think the issue is whether their plans changed or what happened. The main point is that there is still a thread on the Development Forum that talks about the issue. If the issue is dead or has changed or what have you then it would be a good idea for that post to be removed. There's nothing wrong with plans changing. It happens. But when they change they need to come out and say that rather than leave the issue festering. Until the thread is removed then the debate will continue and I agree that's an issue that needs to be buried because it only makes things worse, and right now I'd like to think things can't get worse.



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Caerwynn
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:10 pm
#43


Ever since my first post saying that this subject goes round and round, getting people hot under the collar, has been admirably demonstrated.



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Gouchpuss
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:08 am
#44






Gothywench wrote:





Petronela wrote:
Wouldn’t use of ID be more efficient for this? One can master ID in less then 2 hours now … or is ID not used for this because it gives them less points to respec with?






As much as I hate all of the FS XP stuff and everything related to grinding professions I care about...just a couple notes.

1. ID cannot be done AFK.
2. It takes longer than 2 hours. You can do it in a few hours, *if* you are paired up with someone who can do training for you or sit with you in front of the NPC trainer.

Folks were doing it in 2-3 hours during double XP week.




LIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I did it fom Novice Ent to Master ID, ON MY OWN on 1 hour 58 minutes


Esharra
Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:32 am
#45

The reason FS grinders do Dancer instead of ID is that ID xp caps at 80k and dance xp caps at 900k. If they must do this..and apparently they think so..I do wish they would all gather up in one place. I think I'll start e-mailing them suggesting they go to Dath SO.



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Oblox
Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:20 am
#46



Esharra wrote:
The reason FS grinders do Dancer instead of ID is that ID xp caps at 80k and dance xp caps at 900k. If they must do this..and apparently they think so..I do wish they would all gather up in one place. I think I'll start e-mailing them suggesting they go to Dath SO.





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Deathtomelee
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:56 am
#47






Gothywench wrote:





Petronela wrote:
Wouldn’t use of ID be more efficient for this? One can master ID in less then 2 hours now … or is ID not used for this because it gives them less points to respec with?






As much as I hate all of the FS XP stuff and everything related to grinding professions I care about...just a couple notes.

1. ID cannot be done AFK.
2. It takes longer than 2 hours. You can do it in a few hours, *if* you are paired up with someone who can do training for you or sit with you in front of the NPC trainer.

Folks were doing it in 2-3 hours during double XP week.





not true at all.....unless you are talking from start of the column in entertainer and grinding it up. If you start the clock from novice id, it takes about an hour and fifteen minutes. (this is not double xp-omg that would be insane) I have done it twice now in that time. Once you get to where you can alter musculature, you can get xp every seconds if you are quick and ambidexterous lol. You simply hover the mouse over the arrow where you would click to alter somone'e muscle size, and hit you hotkey with your left hand, left click with your right hand, hit return with your left-you can get into a rythm and fly. It is actually kind of fun lol.


To answer an earleir question. Yes, you can grind ID to respec, and it is easier to do, but you can't do it afk, nor will it allow you to take a toon from scratch to a full elite combat prof, because it only needs one tree of a starter proff and all combat elites need two. Soooo, you can master ID, then dancer, and as much musician as you can get, and then respec to as near to 80 as you can get....not really sure how high you can do this as I haven't done this. Hope that answers your question.






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Caerwynn
Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:09 am
#48


Over the weekend, I had a thread on Chim asking about Inspiration buffs.


The encouraging thing was that a lot of players do get them when grinding.


However the vast majority get them from the AFK bots in Dant MO cantina. Dant is the grinding planet on Chim.


I have tried dancing in the cantina there in the past, but the spam is intolerable, even with blocking AFK spam. Trying to talk to the patrons is hopeless, they just want to get their buff asap and go.


Getting rid of AFKers probably won't cure this problem. Even if all the Ents there were ATK, patrons would still be in and out in as short a time as possible. But there is thehope that just one or two more might linger a little to chat.


Game mechanics are such that the grind is everything, getting to Jedi as fast as possible is paramount for many players and interacting with Ents is very low on the list. It is their right to choose how they play the game, some rarely even leave Dant, sadly.


So no matter how many buffs the devs throw at us, I suspect the situation won't change much. Guilds will place bots where their crafters gather to build up stock. However, SEA will only ever have an AFK bot over Caer's cold, stiff, dead body.

Message Edited by Caerwynn on 08-01-2005 09:10 AM



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