Dancer Archive
Thread: Combat Upgrade Testing (Discussion)
Acornia1
Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:07 pm
#40
I made a Twi'lek entertainer on TC5 and this is what I found while dancing.
Basic Dance cost 1000 dance exp
Was getting 4 points of dancing exp per time tick using either a single floursh or a double floursh ungrouped.
Consitution cost drops were:
(980/1000) per time tick using no flourshes
(978/1000) per single floursh
(949/1000) per double floursh
Seems like 7 points of Con back per con time tick (think about every 0.25 seconds did not have anything to measure it with)
In Bestine cantina was seeing 2 - 8 entertainer healing exp ungrouped with 4 points about average
Had to move to Theed cantina after have a vedio lockup in the Bestine cantina where everything but music and mouse movement around the screen. Could not get keyboard or mouse clicks to work. Ened up having to use the reboot button on coputer to get out of it.
Next was done in the Theed cantina.
Basic Dance 2 (Rythmic) costs 5000 dance experince
6 dancer exp per time tick using either single/double flourshes ungrouped
Constitution dropps were ungrouped:
(968/1000) no flourshes
(968/1000) single floursh
(936/1000) double floursh (Constitution recovery is so fast that this could be 938/1000 But is the best I could tell from watching)
Had one person watching me ungrouped in Theed cantina and was getting 6 dancer healing exp per tick.
Note: you start game with a PDEF pistol in your hand. There will be a red icon below your name saying that you have a Weapon Hinderance slowing your movment speed when you move your mouse arrow over it.
Also had to delete all other Novice skills to get the Entertainer icon to show up to left of name.
That's all the info I can give you for now
Acornia Fleetfoot on TC5
Eaca
Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:13 pm
#41
Just ran some quick numbers on EH xp:
Old system: wounds taken, recieve 1 wound to each stat and 1 BF for each wound taken, total of 1 mind wound and 3 BF per wound incident for a total of 4 things to heal.
New system wounds taken, recieve 1 wound to health and 1 BF, total of 1 BF per incident, for a total of 1 thing to heal.
Entertainer EH xp generationrate has just been reduced by 1/4.
We need 641k EH xp total to master, 341k EH xp of that is to fill boxes that have no use.
Add the fact that now we can have 16 ents sharing a group but after CU we'll have 2 groups of 8 fighting over it, and EH xp generation rate just dropped to 1/8 the current value. It will take EIGHT times longer to get the required EH xp then as now. If you at least give us bigger groups that cuts it down to "only" four times.
DarkY0da
Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:43 pm
#42
Are you sure... I had health wounds and no BF... At least I'm fairly sure i had no BF as I checked...
Esharra
Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:54 pm
#43
Combatters I talked to last night only got BF on death (100 per death).
Idon't knowthat 8 per groupwill bea permanent situation.
Thanks for the numbers guys..keep em coming. (I'm reading like mad..lots to catch up on)
Message Edited by Esharra on 04-01-2005 10:05 PM
Isleh
Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:22 pm
#44
Ilikethe way you can do a musician flo and queue the next flow as the current one played out.This allowed me tomove to the next flo without going to the base song.
It dosn't work the same for dancer and I wish it did.
Also, it would be nice that the icon "recharged" like some of the combat moves showing when a flo is nearing the end.
And the icons are ugly and inconsistent. Some look like clip art. Some look like stock photos. All of them conflict with the rest of the user interface. The old icons at least fit in with the theme, these glare. They don't belong. This fit in as well as the font I am using in this sentance fits in with the font used in the rest of this post.
LyteFoot
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:17 am
#45
I went out to the noob garden and took on a few larger critters. I got 8 wounds and zero BF I don't know when you get BF anymore.
LyteFoot
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:35 am
#46
I got several rifles from the frog and verified that you cannot equip anything you are not certified for. I did not drop all combat boxes to see if this made a difference but I have no faith that the devs took this into account for us. So dancers say good bye to most of your props.
DarkY0da
Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:01 am
#47
Hmm so far...
Weapons I'm not certed for I can't equip.
BF only gained by cloning some place where you don't have your data stored.
You get 100 BF and 100 Health Wounds when you clone like this.
You have to be Deathblowed or incapped 3 times by the SAME mob/npc to have to clone(hard to get the same one to do it when people kept killing them all while I was laying there incapped).
I forgot to see if anyone could rez me... but I doubt they could as I think that at least might take an item to do.
after trying VERY hard to max out BF I managed to do it after a few hours of trying. Mainly thanks to a few people dueling and then DBing me.
Cantinas still heal BF on their own. 11 per I'm not sure how long
BF does affect how much you get healed for. Someone was healing themselves for 400ish while they were only healing me for 150ish with around 700bf(of course with it not taking items... sort of pointless)
So later tonight I'll have 1k BF and we can test it how ever we want.
But my thinking so far is... You either have to really try or be a newbie to get BF. As I figure Rezzing wont' cause BF due to the fact it already causes some form of sickness what ever that might be.
And getting BF does nothing as far as I can tell except lower healing... which doesn't take items so it's sort of pointless that it lowers it.
I'm unsure of BF and it's affects on and of the Doc Buffs.(No Docs...)
Weapons I'm not certed for I can't equip.
BF only gained by cloning some place where you don't have your data stored.
You get 100 BF and 100 Health Wounds when you clone like this.
You have to be Deathblowed or incapped 3 times by the SAME mob/npc to have to clone(hard to get the same one to do it when people kept killing them all while I was laying there incapped).
I forgot to see if anyone could rez me... but I doubt they could as I think that at least might take an item to do.
after trying VERY hard to max out BF I managed to do it after a few hours of trying. Mainly thanks to a few people dueling and then DBing me.
Cantinas still heal BF on their own. 11 per I'm not sure how long
BF does affect how much you get healed for. Someone was healing themselves for 400ish while they were only healing me for 150ish with around 700bf(of course with it not taking items... sort of pointless)
So later tonight I'll have 1k BF and we can test it how ever we want.
But my thinking so far is... You either have to really try or be a newbie to get BF. As I figure Rezzing wont' cause BF due to the fact it already causes some form of sickness what ever that might be.
And getting BF does nothing as far as I can tell except lower healing... which doesn't take items so it's sort of pointless that it lowers it.
I'm unsure of BF and it's affects on and of the Doc Buffs.(No Docs...)
kirah_ashlin
Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:43 am
#48
The lag and the idiots in Bestine shortened Roho's and my stay on the TC last night, but we were there for about an hour, I believe. There were a few bugs both entertainer related and not (Balgosa losing his clothes was a bonus, I believe 
), and I imagine that Roho is going to mention the /startband bug the musicians encountered in the music forum thread.
), and I imagine that Roho is going to mention the /startband bug the musicians encountered in the music forum thread. What concerns me at this point, continuing along with the topic of BF, is that when we did get a few players come in with any BF at all, none of us got more than 3 to 4 points of entertainer healing per tick - the same amount of dance or music xp we got per flo. I'll have to go back online to see my total but I don't think itadded up to 100.
The fact that the frogs can heal wounds and BF aren't helping our testing at all. But, then - I suppose the devs either didn't think about that little fact or didn't care. 
Eaca
Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:01 am
#49
kirah_ashlin wrote:
The lag and the idiots in Bestine shortened Roho's and my stay on the TC last night, but we were there for about an hour, I believe. There were a few bugs both entertainer related and not (Balgosa losing his clothes was a bonus, I believe
What concerns me at this point, continuing along with the topic of BF, is that when we did get a few players come in with any BF at all, none of us got more than 3 to 4 points of entertainer healing per tick - the same amount of dance or music xp we got per flo. I'll have to go back online to see my total but I don't think itadded up to 100.
The fact that the frogs can heal wounds and BF aren't helping our testing at all. But, then - I suppose the devs either didn't think about that little fact or didn't care.
Actually I checked today and frogs don't heal BF or wounds yet, that option is disabled. The problem is they're just not earning it very fast/at all, and if they do they're likely to use thier undroppable entertainer skills and heal it themselves...
Hobbytla
Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:34 am
#50
I posted the lack of BF of my newbie on the first issues thread from the 31st. After that I haven't seen anyone else complain or mention this, am I the only one? I guess I can nag every day, but it seems better ifdifferent peopletesting brings it up there as a point in their issues list? And sorry if I just missed those posts there!
Not saying that this discussion shouldn't be held here, just... do you also list it in the bug thread or issues thread? (the two threads which are read by the devs?) After logging out, did you mention it in the "progression" tab in the survey? (I don't care if they are testing combat and not entertaining leveling, 'battle fatigue" implies battle, not cloning)
Chessack
Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:54 pm
#51
Well now, if you only get BF when you forget to store your clone data -- not when you're wounded -- who the heck but an imbecile is ever going to have any BF?
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DanceRulez
Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:20 pm
#52
Acornia1 wrote:Consitution cost drops were:...Also had to delete all other Novice skills to get the Entertainer icon to show up to left of name.
Acornia, I'm pretty sure that flourishes cost Action - not Constitution. The stat window is the same one as now, but the stats themselves have been changed, and this window hasn't been updated to show the new stats yet, so it just shows them over the old bars and names so the action stat is being listed on the Constitution bar.
Now about the icon showing what role you're playing, what I found is that if you just click on it, you can change it to all the roles you can perform. It just changes through them in a sequence, I don't know if there's a way to skip directly to the one you want.