Dancer Archive

*cough* I prefer to be called The Dancing Bantha

... but yes, Vse's stance did change right after the first post. Vse is not only open to a legit speed buff, but also suggested it could come in the form of a bonus in Camps and/or PC Cantinas. (I think the Rangers would freak over that )

So far no one has responded to that other than me (pappi is excused, she's sick )... Mind Enhancement (duration)Bonus on Camps and/or PC Cantinas? Yes? No? Maybe?

(I don't think the "who's fun is it?" thing really has a constructive path... Those of us playing Dancers think our fun is most important, those playing the other classes we heal/buff want us not to get in the way of their fun. We should be able to have both without getting into any kind of cat fight. )

i have over 200 clients and they follow me no matter the length i just think it would be a good way to get some of us out of the overloaded main cantina's and get more in the cities empty cantina's anyways CBT wise it make sense and for us i think it makes sense im not saying the glitch buff im saying a new buff poet lol i gotta make sure cauz she thinks im talking about the glitch

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Panthu wrote:

*So far no one has responded to that other than me (pappi is excused, she's sick )... Mind Enhancement (duration)Bonus on Camps and/or PC Cantinas? Yes? No? Maybe?

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I am another dancer that is glad they got rid of the 30 sec. buffs. I used it a few times when I first read about it but for the most part my customers did not at all appreciate the spastic dance or the spam that went with it. I give buffs in 5 mins and all my customers are perfectly happy with that. Sure you get the one or two that will say, "hey, can you do that superfast buff?" but when I tell them no they don't get up and walk away, they stay the 5 mins. Not to mention that I had a very negative encounter with one of these 30 sec. buffers and was not all impressed by how she thought shetoo good to buff a fellow entertainer,but that is neither here nor there.

Now if they come up with a legitimate way to do faster buffs I'm all for it. Not 30 sec. buffs though because I think that is just ridiculously fast and does nothing to promote interaction between you and your customers which is a big part of being a dancer. I think that 2 minutes would be nice. I think that the above mentioned idea for increased time in camps and player city cantinas is a good one. I agree that it would help to spread the dancers out too.

I do not think we will need an incentive to get increased buffs in camps or player cantinas, given that hologrinder will be a thing of the past come publish 10. I do not think it is that needed to get people out of public cantinas - theed and coronet are the two main afk eldorados, the rest of the cantinas is not exactly overbooked.

As far as 30 second buffs go... people get used to an exploit, and now cry us a river when it is fixed. I got no sympathy for this. There is not much of a difference between 30 seconds and 3.10 minutes anyway, with a little bit of planning you can use this time to prepare further and organise. I myself have never seen a raid or hunt where all was so set that you could just buff up in 30 second and be on your way - people usually were late and such.

Now is not the time for more changes as far as I can see - not until the Jedi fix is in place and we know it's working properly. I believe we just need to bide our time and wait it out a little bit more.

Regarding the 30 second buff - well I never used it, never was asked to use it and don't know anyone who has used it among my entertainer friends on Bria. My clients were fine with an 8 minute buff time and thrilled whenever I was able to give them a 5 minute powerbuff (which, btw, looks smooth and flows well, not spastic). However, not once did I ever receive a complaint about not offering the 30 second buff - and considering I am a member of one of the largest guides in the game, that's saying a lot!

As far as the camp incentive goes, I think I'll have to go back and read the suggestion in context. Although, I have to say this , Vse:it would make it much easier to read and understand your posts if you usedapproptiate sentence structure. Having to figure out where one sentence ends and the next one begins takes away from my ability to comprehend what you are trying to say and can cause misunderstandings.

Message Edited by kirah_ashlin on 04-28-2004 05:58 PM

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PoetDancer wrote:
What is there not to get? I as a live dancer want 30 second buffs. I said it a THIRD time now. But I'm not going spastic to do it. I just wish, like you, that there would be a way to get the buff times down without manipulating the code in the way it had been manipulated. Not to have the developers come down from Mount Olympusand say, "doing /stardance, /flo 1-5, /stopdance is okay," because that's just sanctioning something that was broken. Rather I'd want, as Panthu put (and not you, mind you), a faster buff time using the tools as they were meant to be used. Now what's so difficult to understand about that, dear?

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I agree with this... if there's a purposely-given way to buff in 30s, cool. I'm not going to make myself look silly or break some unintended bug to do it.

Message Edited by Pappi on 04-28-2004 12:43 AM

It would have been nice if they had explained the "change" to the enhancement system a little more clearly in the release notes. I don't think the majority of the non-ents understand that it was fixing an exploit, they just see it as (warning I'm gonna get cynical here) another change that makes their lives difficult whether or not that is actually the case.

Honestly, a good portion of my customers were already upset with having to sit around while I buff them. I normally do 8 minute buffs to be sure they get the best possible, but if they're really ancy I have a nasty 5 minute routine too where it looks like I'm hopped up on speed spice. I'm totally against cheating and I didn't even realize there was an exploit till now, but this change isn't going to help my dwindling business.

My point is that in a holo-dancer world what the dancing prof needs is GOOD PR. (BTW, I realize its not like I'm going to have to take 10 minutes to do a buff now - they might not though.) I'm not looking forward to explaining to customers who ask about the change either...I'd just like to have good news that sounds good.

I don't think morale in this profession is going to improve until the holo grinding afk issues are solved, regardless of how many exploits/problems they fix, the holo one is so big that its all that matters right now. Any other fixes just rub it in that the real problem is being ignored. Call me a cynic and a whiner, but I've been dancing since day 2 of release and I want my !@*%!$# cantina back.

if your talking to me thats what im asking too ... like i said at least 3 times, i hated not being able to read the spacial chat and we arent dancing at all or playing music like some people said so lets get it in a way where we can have no spam and we are dancing or playing too. im thinkin a minute buff would be ok if you do both buffs,its about 3 minutes total,which is resonable i think .