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Thread: grrrrr the real nasty ones

NovalisPallida
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:14 am
#27

This is just offensive to roleplayers. I don't roleplay on SWG but I have on the internet before. Most roleplayers discuss scenes before they occure to ensure that everyone is happy with the terms/parts and that the session is fun/creative not offensive/hurtful/sexist.


I'm a dancer on Bria and I've been lucky to have minimal contact with these sorts of people. But if I see this happening to anyone, I know a few (5 or so) good commandos and I will shame any person I see acting this way until they are forced to make a new character.


I just can't believe that this is happening. For the love of god people, this should be fun.


Kitachiira
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:26 am
#28





That guy was a total jerk! He needs to be dealt with badly. The worst I've received was guy who actually wanted cyber-sex. He, however, did everything through tells, not spatial (so nothing was to humiliate) and backed off as soon as he found out that I was married in real life and in the game. So he didn't bother me that much. Besides, my husband is Shi Dira, on Starsider, and those who know him know he's a master smuggler and know of the good attacks that come with that trade. My husband plays on his computer across the front room from me and was not happy with that "gentleman". My marriage is now written into my bio and that has helped with some "assertive" players. I'm also becoming a pistoleer to handle them on my own.

You know what we should do? I don't know how willing people would be to do this but maybe hire mercenaries to be body guards. If anyone bugs us, they can challenge them! That could be interesting.


I'm no longer Kit. I changed my character. I'm now Rhysati Ynr. I'm waiting to hear back how to change that. I can't figure that out. Probably some stupid little thing I missed. If anyone knows how, please tell me!
CandiDance
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:51 pm
#29

Welcome to the world of jerks.


1. I say "knock if off you're being a jerk." (Takes care of like 90% of them)


2. I hit them and say "knock it off jerk" a second time (Takes care of almostall of them)


3. If that doesn't work I report them.


4. If SOE doesn't actappropriately or attempt to resolve my complaint I threaten toreport them for Sexual Harassment under the laws of California where they are located. Wow, did they respond very nicely after that one. In California a business is responsibleif it knowinglyallowings sexual harassmentby onecustomeron to another customer. A wonderful law to use on your own behalf if SOE doesn't enforce its own terms and condtions when you file a complaint.


5. If SOE doesn't comply you may lodge a complaint with the Department of Fair Employment and Houseing a Department of the State of California (The equivalent of the federal EEO) for sexual harassment. (I have never needed to do this SOE has been helpful when I have complained.)

Kitachiira
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:11 pm
#30

Maybe I've just had a lucky run lately. I never thought of reporting them to California. That I will keep in mind although I've heard that lots of Canadians have trouble filing complaints against American companies. Of course, those are the only ones you actually hear about aren't they? It's never the ones that go smoothly, which is probably most. That's a good piece of advice. One I wrote down.
Kitachiira
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:12 pm
#31


Maybe I've just had a lucky run lately. I never thought of reporting them to California. That I will keep in mind although I've heard that lots of Canadians have trouble filing complaints against American companies. Of course, those are the only ones you actually hear about aren't they? It's never the ones that go smoothly, which is probably most. That's a good piece of advice. One I wrote down.
Kitachiira
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:14 pm
#32

Sorry. daughter came and clicked on the mouse and posted my last message again. Sorry about that.
YoursTruly
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:09 am
#33

((If someone you don't know is in a cantina with you and starts sending you tells that you think will lead to an uncomfortable position like this, and you want a more subtle way to try and deflect them, try replying to their tells in normal /say, not in return tells. That way you can still talk and be friendly, but it makes the point that you are not amenable to a more private sort of "friendly" talk.))



Rikasee - Rodian master dancer
kirah_ashlin
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:53 am
#34






YoursTruly wrote:

try replying to their tells in normal /say, not in return tells.




I've used this tactic before and it does work for those players who are trying to be sneaky about their offensiveness. Its the ones who don't seem to care that it doesn't work on! (Where is the "shaking head in amazement" smilie?)

Lesia
Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:26 pm
#35

A dancer in group was being harrassed, so a musician offered to propose marriage (in spatial)to the dancer. It worked. He proposed, she accepted, we all cheered, and the offender left her alone. The musician and dancerdidn't get married, but I'm sure they stayed friends.


As entertainers we've all been hit on and flirting is the norm, but overtharrassment is unacceptable. Placing people on ignore works far better if they are making unwanted offers in /tell, but when they openly abuse you ina cantina, you need to handle the situation more creatively. /cheers to your felllow entertainers who encircled you.


Stryider
Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:57 pm
#36

I hear whre you are coming from with this problem of people being abusive and breaking morale barriers. Lately i have been active in trying to get this fixed, and have been posting on boards trying to find other cases and incidents. It really has to stop, and i challenge all people(which is mainly men) who do this to others people. Its not right, and someone has to fight it. Sadly, im only one person on one server, but ill never give in, and if you ever need a hand just let me know, and ill get one of my buddies, who have chars on your server to fix it right up. Know what i mean?



Fight for those who can or will not fight for themselves.
A house divided against itself can not stand!

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C-ike
Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:30 am
#37

I was dancing in Theed one afternoon, and some dolt /licked me. I immediately slapped him across the face. He came over and did it again, so, I challenged him to a duel.

He said "?", in spatial, then came over and got down on his knee, begging for my forgiveness. I accepted his apology, and life went on.

I was a little bummed, I'm a master dancer/TK student with a very fast VK, and I had buffs at the time. My armor was hotkeyed and ready to go. I think it would have been disgustingly satisfying to wipe up the cantina floor with him.

Heh. Maybe next time.



C'ike - Master Dancer/Master TK - Starsider
Kreistor
Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:24 am
#38


It happened to me on Saturday actually:


I'm visiting a friend in his city. He's talking with a guildie, so I decide to wait by dancing. Three 'boys' comeup and see me dancing. I'm not in my dancing clothes, I'm in travel wear.


One says "I'd love to get a piece of that a$$". The others responded with equally lewd comments.


I explain how lewd a comment that was and if they would please stop. He proceeded to challenge me to a duel, which I had to inform him wouldn't prove his manhood since I was a dancer. They went on to make lewder comments, insult my parentage, etc.


So, I asked my friend to ban them and he did. I then said that I had reported them. They were SO appologetic afterwards, saying "We didn't mean what we said!"


Guess what?!? But you did say it! Reporting can't be undone. Don't think there aren't any reprocussions to your actions in game.


Having said that, this extreme lewdness is rare. I haven't encoutered it in a while. Still, there are the exceptions.

Message Edited by Kreistor on 04-05-2004 10:48 AM



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