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Thread: grrrrr the real nasty ones

ArgentWulf
Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:51 pm
#14


I think most dancers have gone thru situations like this. (Its sad, but its true.) You did eveything you should have. I'm glad you got immediate support from those around you, I know that helps. There are always jerks out there. Someone mentioned finding a player run cantina, this is a great option as the patrons tend to be regulars and while this doesn't totally alleviate the situation it does help (plus with the aid of the owner you can get rid of the riff-raff). As for CSR's wecan hope they do something about this. Like someone mentioned we are a society and respect for one another should be a top priority in any society whether online or in RL.

***hugs***



Leivi Esava
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MUSoprano
Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:41 am
#15

It galls me that people think that they can harass people, slap a "roleplay" sticker on it, and go on their merry way. Sadly... they can, because clearly the CSR's don't do anything to help. Nothing like feeling victimized doing something that's supposed to be a hobby... *sigh*






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Avadiha Lona-Soep
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KMad
Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:48 am
#16

the good part about it was how so many people there did all they could to defend me (the circle around me really was a clever idea and made me smile), and how many people have heard of it by now and want to help too.


as far as the CSR ticket, i got a response that i should use /ignore and /report, both of which i said in the ticket that i had done, so, oh well. it also asked me to close the ticket at my earliest convenience. i added a comment that noted i had done both those things, and had explained why i thought /ignore was not enough in this situation in the ticket itself. i said they might not agree with me, but my earliest convenience for closing the ticket will be after i at least know they read it. but, i won't be holding my breath there.


there are always going to be real jerks out there, but at least i have good friends on my side, and i feel much better today than i did last night. and even at the worst, i knew i woudln't drop dancer over this jerk. i already did drop dance once and got it back, i'm a dancer at heart i guess.





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vercupti (+75 prec) thakitillo (+77 sta)
flameout (+65 con) mando (49 fill 19 min +54 str)


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Leonae
Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:35 am
#17

I got a simple policy: IC harassement will be dealt with IC, ooc harassement - and anything ic continuing after I ask oocly to stop is ooc harassement - will be dealt with /report, a ticket, and /addignore /denyservice. My playtime's too short and too valuable to waste it trying to deal with jerks.
kirah_ashlin
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:05 am
#18




In my experience the /ignore optionis the worst thing you can do. Its worse than useless. Itgives the other person the ability to continue to say and do vulgarthings and actually restricts you!


I had a similar situation a while back, though it wasn't as extreme. I didn't put the guy on /ignore but literally did ignore him for several minutes. He gave up just in time because I was about to report him.


You were fortunate to have so many friends with you. Its sad, but I've stopped going to the city cantinas when I'm by myself because it seemssomeonetries to hit on me almost every time - and few of them seem to care anymore that I am married. Theyseem to besmart enough to keep their distance or at least back off when my (ingame) husband is there with me, though. I used to enjoy the comradery of the big entertainment groups and patrons. It was part of the reason I started out in this profession. Now, when I'm dancing, I spent most of my time in the cantina in the player city I am a member of. My fellow TF and TFK guild members would never even think of harassing me and they are always appreciative. And it is nice to have them around just in case a visitor gets out of hand.
MonkeyofDoom
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:16 am
#19

I'm actually dropping my Dancing skills on my alt because I receive so much harrassment from "customers" and am instead concentrating on Musicianship. It satisfies my non-combat yearnings, but it's not quite as much fun.


It annoys me when people stand right next to you and even follow you when you move. Would they do it in real life? Of course they wouldn't. And the fact that female characters could - for some bizarre reason - NOT be interested in cyber with them never seems to cross their tiny little minds...


And I agree, /addignore is a bad move. I'd rather know what they're doing.




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Breestan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:02 am
#20

I've had these problems before. Though I refuse to let them 'win' and give up my dancer title.


Usually I respond to /lick and /drool the same way with something about how drool on the floor makes the dancers slip and hurt themselves, then they can't dance anymore. And that also drool can really ruin a good dress and times are hard enough as it is.


That's usualy been enough. I have an emote to step away from the puddle of drool too, and all three usually earn a laugh or an lol and there is not more problems. once I can tolerate, and the kisses I can tolerate when it was more of a goodbye thank you.


I've been harassed by this one Twi'lek, obviously raised by veermok, who kept beating up on my poor little Squall, when I asked that he stop /slaping my pet he resorted to punching. Then it went to where he was doing it to everyone in the room. I let him think I had /add ignored him. (But I didn't- I only do it to people who are obviously macro spamming after about 5 minutes of it. I like how dorky people act when they think no one is listening.) I denied him service, put my pet away and sat down to craft.



Usually, there are people around who love my character and defend her quite well so it's not that much a bother, but if it gets too bad I just sit down.


I'm a roleplayer, but someone to use that as an excuse to be hurtful doesn't know the meaning of the word. Usually they also know the difference between IC and OOC and designate them as such. You can see it in...


Tekoa: Jedi were nothing more than hypocritical, lying dictators. If they had cared any about freedom and peace maybe Ryloth wouldn't be in the state that it is. Or what about the people that were abandoned on Yanibar by the Jedi? Hmph... The worlds wont be any better with or without them... I don't know why people try to cling to a false hope....


Tekoa: ((I think I'll be waiting for the quest system to come out before trying to open my Jedi slot. It'll either be Twi'lek or Bothan too I think... hehe, a Bothan with a lightsaber would be cute.))


The (( )) is obviously Out Of Character talk. Or insert a guy talking about wookie sex slaves or something then ((He's got a deep grudge against wookie, one that was trying to escape slavery killed several people in the attempt to get away and my character's little brother was one.) A role player will know WHY their character is behaving a certain way and if that certain way walks the fine line of harassment a good Roleplayer will inform the party in question that this is not a personal attack- it IS in chracter.


The responding party can then play accordingly (free wookie will attack right?) And the roleplayer will respond to the Duel either by accepting or playing out rejection of the duel. ::Bob sees the wookie is getting riled and thinks now's a good time to lay off, for fear of his arms:: ::Bob hears his mother calling and edges away from the irate wookie:: That sort of thing. Or the responding party can take it to /tell and explain that the talk is making them uncomfortable, please mellow it out a bit or stop etc.


If the roleplayer isn't cool with that and persists to harass the person.... report em because Roleplaying is supposed to be in consideration of the others roleplaying with you. If I told my friends (we have a group of Palladium/Gurps dnd roleplayers each sunday) that I was uncomfortable with how one of their characters kept making vulgar advances to my character (none do) they'd stop. Roleplay is supposed to be enjoyable for everyone. ::sage nod::


I think you did fine by reporting them. And I agree that /add ignore can be restricting, besides you want to be able to get a screen shot of what the guy is saying in case a CSR needs it for some reason. It's proof and all.






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sweatyclimber
Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:18 pm
#21






NeoTheHutt wrote:
for gods sake there are already 50 threads about this subject. USE ONE OF THOSE!!!!






is there a reason that the chip on your shoulder is as big as the empire state building?



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KMad
Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:53 pm
#22

sometimes i don't /addignore, this time i did because i was flustered enough already and didn't want to see more, and, from the /groupchat i knew that others were still watching him and taking screenshots of the worst of it. but yeah, for someone without defenders in this situation, you mightnot be able to literally ignore if you need proof later.


an update, this guy has been back to the cantina, but not ever at a time i've been there since. according to friends, he's behaving now. that's a good thing to hear! maybe someone did talk to him and get through.


i was very lucky to have friends there at the time, and even people i didn't know stood up for me. i've decided that it was better he chose me than some newbie, because i did have a support system in place, and someone new might not have.



KMadness Candy Treats and Junk Food
Because Whit's too lazy to cook it all herself!
Twilight's End, Naboo (-3036, 5300)
vercupti (+75 prec) thakitillo (+77 sta)
flameout (+65 con) mando (49 fill 19 min +54 str)


i want a complex game with an easy interface, not an easy game with a complex interface
NJ62
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:34 pm
#23

I have to add my favorite line here, that I got to use the other day:


Welcome to my ignore list. Population: you.





n'Jessi
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Kreistor
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:31 am
#24






NJ62 wrote:

I have to add my favorite line here, that I got to use the other day:


Welcome to my ignore list. Population: you.









Perfect! May I borrow that?





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Jynn_Seidai
Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:59 am
#25

Ewwww, that is horrible. I hope that the CSR's take some serious action towards him.



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NJ62
Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:52 am
#26






Kreistor wrote:





NJ62 wrote:

I have to add my favorite line here, that I got to use the other day:


Welcome to my ignore list. Population: you.









Perfect! May I borrow that?








Share and share alike! Go for it (the reaction is quite amusing, I assure you, because usually the person being ignored doesn't get the humor, while others in the vicinity laugh.)



n'Jessi
former correspondent, former player

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