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Thread: Crisis of Conscience

ArgentWulf
Sun May 02, 2004 8:32 am
#27






FuschiaD wrote:



Clearly you're not a roleplayer... or factioned for that matter.

When I'm in-game, yeah, I'm ME. But I'm also Avadiha, the Twi'lek dancer who feels a debt to the Empire for helping her see her worth. Is she going to betray that bond she feels by helping the enemy? Absolutely not. She may have her flaws, but she is loyal above all else, and she feels morally opposed to doing anything which may give the enemy an edge.

As for death penalties... that's not what it's about. At all. PvP isn't about penalties, it's about beating your opponent. My role as an Imperial dancer is to help the Empire put down the Rebellion. I can't do much, but I'll do everything I can.

If I wanted to buff everyone equally, I'd be neutral. But to me, that's no fun. It adds to the roleplaying fun to say "I'm sorry, I don't buff traitors of the Empire." Especially when I tell this to someone who ISN'T a roleplayer and proceeds to barrage me with obscenities, because, ya know, my ignore list just ISN'T long enough. :rolleyes:





Yes it is all about roleplaying! You express some very valid points. Of course you should stear clear of the darkside and come over to the light.




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kirah_ashlin
Sun May 02, 2004 11:39 am
#28









FuschiaD wrote:


Clearly you're not a roleplayer... or factioned for that matter.

When I'm in-game, yeah, I'm ME. But I'm also Avadiha, the Twi'lek dancer who feels a debt to the Empire for helping her see her worth. Is she going to betray that bond she feels by helping the enemy? Absolutely not. She may have her flaws, but she is loyal above all else, and she feels morally opposed to doing anything which may give the enemy an edge.

As for death penalties... that's not what it's about. At all. PvP isn't about penalties, it's about beating your opponent. My role as an Imperial dancer is to help the Empire put down the Rebellion. I can't do much, but I'll do everything I can.

If I wanted to buff everyone equally, I'd be neutral. But to me, that's no fun. It adds to the roleplaying fun to say "I'm sorry, I don't buff traitors of the Empire." Especially when I tell this to someone who ISN'T a roleplayer and proceeds to barrage me with obscenities, because, ya know, my ignore list just ISN'T long enough. :rolleyes:






See, now . . . THIS is the difference between Role Player and Non-role Player.


Think of Role Players as actors - specifically the local amateur theater type. They know that they aren't making money from performing, and rarely get any recognition for all the time and effort they put into it (having a friend in this field, I know something of what I speak) yet they put themselves into the "role" they "play" just as if it were real. That makes it convincing to the audience. Otherwise, it isn't acting.


Now, the problem we RPers have is that some players, whomight never go to see a Broadway play let alone step foot into a local theater, are out of necessity,required to come to us for heals and buffs. They don't like it. They don't want to be drawn into the show. They don't understand why we are up there on stage and why they have to put up with the time it takes for us to finish an "act" of healing or buffing so that they can get on their merry way. They have no appreciation for our efforts - some of them even resent our efforts and would like to do away with not only our profession, but the whole role playing aspect of the game altogether . . .


Should we change our ways to suit them? To a degree, yes. We should be sensitive to our clients' play style as best we can. However, we are humans (on this side of the monitor, anyway) and can't possibly be expected to pick up on each player's mood at any given moment. As well,these playersneed to be sensitive to OUR play style. It is not a one way street. We are not required to bow to their demands. Its our game,too, and if we are going to remain a viable profession, and if our play style is going to garner any respect at all, we need to stand up for our rights as paying players, also. We need to let the devs - and their bosses - know that there is a strong entertainer/role player voice and we want to be heard.


JohnMarble
Sun May 02, 2004 3:59 pm
#29






FuschiaD wrote:



Clearly you're not a roleplayer... or factioned for that matter.








No, no! I'm factioned! I'd probably have been a criminal faction, if they'd ever add it. See, now the roleplaying part I said I understand, it's just the game mechanics side. Personally, my character may have politics, but it all come down to being a professional. In addition, I'm a violemmnt rodian, who sees nothing wrong with my friends and enemies killing each other--I, in fact, relish it! I challenge my loved ones with powerful enemies! I know their blood will spill as well asthe wookiees!
FuschiaD
Sun May 02, 2004 4:28 pm
#30






JohnMarble wrote:


No, no! I'm factioned! I'd probably have been a criminal faction, if they'd ever add it. See, now the roleplaying part I said I understand, it's just the game mechanics side. Personally, my character may have politics, but it all come down to being a professional. In addition, I'm a violemmnt rodian, who sees nothing wrong with my friends and enemies killing each other--I, in fact, relish it! I challenge my loved ones with powerful enemies! I know their blood will spill as well asthe wookiees!






Now, THAT I can relate to! LOL




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AllyaEcati
Fri May 07, 2004 5:52 am
#31



I just tell overt rebels that it's not my policy to buff overt members of the opposing side. If a rebel's overt, it most likely means that he/she is out to kill some imperials. This could include some of my friends and guildmates, and I have no desire to help them with that! Most people have understood my policy so far. Once one guy said, "But it's just a game!" and I said, "Exactly!"



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Oqua
Fri May 07, 2004 8:18 am
#32

I am of imperial faction, and have friends whom are rebel. That being said, they all know that I don't let faction come in the way of things, unless I see them trying to kill my husband


I don't buff, heal, or aide in any way shape or form a person I know takes place in any pvp action. Its not personal, its business, and most respect me for sticking up for "my side". Mind you, this isn't to say I will blindly help imperials I know who are in the wrong (i.e. gtef and griefing, for wrong is wrong, no matter what side you are on), but thats for another discussion.


Now I have had a few who have tried to make me feel small in public because I did the old /denyservice to them (in fact, I think its rather amusing seeing a big self proclaimed field/board bigshot turn into a big crybaby because they have been denied service). Those that do that though I think are saying more about their own demeanor then mine, so I just giggle to myself, tell them politely what I think of them, and enjoy my time dancing.


I had the pleasure of meeting you the other day, and you seem like a very pleasant person. The fact that Fuschia thinks highly of you tells me you are in fact, because she has even a lower tolerance for weenees then I do *teasing smile*.


I suppose what I am trying to say is don't let them worry you. You are a nice person, regardless of "faction" and "buffing/healing" those you don't wish to. If they can't see that, then they aren't worth the effort to convince. *small smile*



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Oqua
Fri May 07, 2004 8:19 am
#33

I am of imperial faction, and have friends whom are rebel. That being said, they all know that I don't let faction come in the way of things, unless I see them trying to kill my husband


I don't buff, heal, or aide in any way shape or form a person I know takes place in any pvp action. Its not personal, its business, and most respect me for sticking up for "my side". Mind you, this isn't to say I will blindly help imperials I know who are in the wrong (i.e. gtef and griefing, for wrong is wrong, no matter what side you are on), but thats for another discussion.


Now I have had a few who have tried to make me feel small in public because I did the old /denyservice to them (in fact, I think its rather amusing seeing a big self proclaimed field/board bigshot turn into a big crybaby because they have been denied service). Those that do that though I think are saying more about their own demeanor then mine, so I just giggle to myself, tell them politely what I think of them, and enjoy my time dancing.


I had the pleasure of meeting you the other day, and you seem like a very pleasant person. The fact that Fuschia thinks highly of you tells me you are in fact, because she has even a lower tolerance for weenees then I do *teasing smile*.


I suppose what I am trying to say is don't let them worry you. You are a nice person, regardless of "faction" and "buffing/healing" those you don't wish to. If they can't see that, then they aren't worth the effort to convince. *small smile*




Oqua Y Tryna Y Katya
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NewJedi
Fri May 07, 2004 8:51 am
#34

I'm a rebel, and when I'm in a RP mode, I won't perform for overt Imperials. OTOH, I've had to make compromises because my player city is neutral, and our cantina-meister (a Dancer) is Imperial. OK, so for her, I make an exception.
Panthu
Fri May 07, 2004 8:53 am
#35






NewJedi wrote:

I'm a rebel, and when I'm in a RP mode, I won't perform for overt Imperials. OTOH, I've had to make compromises because my player city is neutral, and our cantina-meister (a Dancer) is Imperial. OK, so for her, I make an exception.




Yay for NewJedi making the Ent rounds! /cheer


(OT, but that was a really nice ID post! )






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