Dancer Archive
Thread: New insp buffs .... 1st impression
Yiddo-Chimaera wrote:
Is that the only boxes u need then?
It is tempting just to go musician and dancer x x 4 x and forget mastery .... pity but I don't wanna just be a 'buffbot' as someone said, just able to do several things for guild in addition to what i wanna do for myself.
Well, gonna take a while to get used to it for sure ....
My x x x x novice musician/ master dancer gave out about 2-3 armorsmith buffs, 2 weaponsmith, 2 artisan, 1 architect, 1 ID, and 1 chef buff over a two to threehour period. My musician buffs are about 2 hours and 26 minutes. I can't remember the length of my dancer ones but they're probably around 3 hours.
Overall I did
2 Dancer buffs
5-6 Musician buffs
2 Entertainer buffs
Additionally, another musician in the cantina probably did about 7 or 8 buffs while I was there. Seriously thinking about respecing to master musician/ x x x x novice dancer- Get Nageron, Play more songs, Do Western Quest, can still do theatrical 2 (which is the dance I usually do anyway). Plus with the musician buff,you can play the mandoval.
BTW, since you need to be ATK, there will be no buff bots arounds (only buff people :tongue
SlickRiptide wrote:*shrug* It's our version of "combat stacking". If you want to be a CL80 combat wombat, you have to take two elite masteries and maybe master marksman on top of it. If you want to be a "full service entertainer" you need to take two elite masteries and maybe master entertainer for the extra buffing bonus.
Welcome to the new world of Star Wars: Galaxy of Specialists. The current crop of devs don't want us to have broad character templates, they want us to have narrow ones (or they at least believe that PLAYERS want to have narrow ones).
You're right, but...
A combat stacker can use all his moves with either (related) combat prof. So a TKA/Swordsman can use his TKA moves while wielding a sword, and vice versa.
If they're going to make us stack too, we should get the same ability. Since I'm a Master Ent/Musician/Dancer/ID, then I should get them all doing any activity. If I want to do a SW buff while I'm dancing, the fact that I am a Master Musician also, should allow it.
I mean, fair is fair. If a TKA gets to use "Sword smash" with his bare hands, I should get to use "SW Buff" while dancing.
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Chessack wrote:
Yiddo-Chimaera wrote:
So, to be a fully useable ATK ent you need tu use points on both elite ent profs?
Of course not. Even if you mastered both, what are you going to do, keep swapping between them?
There's a very simple solution. Group with a musician. He plays, you dance. Isn't that normally how one performs anyway? Or do you make it a habit to dance in utter silence? I know I don't.
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Well, on the basis that this aft there must have been 6 dancers and no musicians in theed cantina then yes, people do dance in silence.
I ended up taking novice musician so least I can do 2.5hr buffs if no musicians about.
i can no longer buff myself. (after waiting so long to be able to do so, to get it, then have it snatched away...)
i do not get to apply the full range of buffs, and in fact get the ones people are least likely to want.
i can longer apply good buffs afk. **
** i realize that the non-afk buffing may be considered only a positive to some people. but my alt is for the benefit of my guild, and kepy almost exclusively in the guild city, unless i choose to entertain atk in an npc city. i enjoy entertaining and want to be atk when i can, however there are times when the guild needs me and i am not able to be there. thus afk buffing. that is no longer an option. not that they really need the buffs from me beyond the passive anyway, so i guess it's ok.
/sigh
Jessalyn_Bohicat wrote:
there are times when the guild needs me and i am not able to be there. thus afk buffing.
See, I still don't get this and I guess I should direct myself to the sticky but I am quite cranky today.
I don't see how it's a benefit to a guild to encourage them to rely on only one person instead of going out in the world, interacting with other entertainers and making a network of friends and allies who will actively help when the ONE AND ONLY ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD is not online.
I understand quite well how it helps the one person feel "special" but I just don't see how it helps the guild. I see it as the main reason why so many guilds failed during the CU when their special bot owners quit and they suddenly had no support.
Message Edited by Doriana on 08-31-2005 04:39 PM
Doriana wrote:
Jessalyn_Bohicat wrote:
there are times when the guild needs me and i am not able to be there. thus afk buffing.
See, I still don't get this and I guess I should direct myself to the sticky but I am quite cranky today.
I don't see how it's a benefit to a guild to encourage them to rely on only one person instead of going out in the world, interacting with other entertainers and making a network of friends and allies who will actively help when the ONE AND ONLY ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD is not online.
I understand quite well how it helps the one person feel "special" but I just don't see how it helps the guild. I see it as the main reason why so many guilds failed during the CU when their special bot owners quit and they suddenly had no support.Message Edited by Doriana on 08-31-2005 04:39 PM
it helps the guild if for example, theyre all grinding out of your city (which doesnt have a shuttle) and dont want to have to bike 3k meters to go to an npc city where there may or may not be an entertainer. who may or may not have the buff you need (new circumstance).
it is not about feeling special or being selfish. it is about convenience. if a guild member is in theed, obviously they wont fly to tat and ride the 3km to see me or another afk buffer. they will visit the ones in theed. (who i mgiht add, are all afk anyways and spamming for tips, something i do NOT do and never have done).
but if they are already out there, and in the middle of something (grinding, base defense, crafting etc) they would prefer to have someone readily availible. wouldnt you?
Sure, but that's why we need holos to sell or some other game design solution, not something that makes the majority of the people playing the prof miserable.
Jessalyn_Bohicat wrote:
but if they are already out there, and in the middle of something (grinding, base defense, crafting etc) they would prefer to have someone readily availible. wouldnt you?
Panthu wrote:
Sure, but that's why we need holos to sell or some other game design solution, not something that makes the majority of the people playing the prof miserable.
Jessalyn_Bohicat wrote:
but if they are already out there, and in the middle of something (grinding, base defense, crafting etc) they would prefer to have someone readily availible. wouldnt you?
yeah that's a nice idea. but as yet, un-implemented. and until it is, ill do what i can to help people.
believe you me, theres nothing i hate more than seeing 20 afk ppl in the cantina spamming for tips and offering "mind jobs" it disgusts me. im not moaning over my lack of being able to plant myself in theed cantina and buff bot for milliosn 24/7, because i have never done that. altho, i may add, the entertainer who DID used to do that on ahazi, was awarded an "outstanding entertainer badge" lol
i have mastered dancer 6 times on a variety of characters and servers. i ENJOY it. i truly do. i love being an atk ent, and lobby for atk entertaining when i can. in the case of this particular character, she has a purpose and that has alway been to be my buff/id/dancer bish.
NJ62 wrote:
I'm confused here. He won't tip the spammy musician because the spammy musician is afk and unable to buff, so the spammy musician is equally useless. And why would it necessarily follow that a dancer would get addignored in this scenario?
In fact as I recall we have been asking for a sound feature for tips since around launch, and to my knowledge it has never been added.
You seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions, PD, especially if you think that all AFKers are sitting at their computers with SWG minimized. Hardly anyone does that. Most of them are AFK macroing while they are asleep or out at dinner or at work... in which case they couldn't hear the tipping even if it made a sound.
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Message Edited by PoetDancer on 08-31-2005 04:33 PM