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Thread: How to be usefull in PvP

kirah_ashlin
Sat May 01, 2004 8:06 pm
#14






Panthu wrote:

my guild Chef and Doc of course rock hardcore and spoil me )





Our docs usually buff me while I buff them! Mutual stroking!
kirah_ashlin
Sun May 02, 2004 5:11 am
#15

It would take a lot for me to leave camp . . . and I'd probably be fleeing in the opposite direction of the battle! I do faction missions, but that's the closest I ever get to running with the enemy. My template currently allows for master dancer, master medic, TK novice (still working on that one) and a couple boxes of scout. I'm no PvPer, but I love to support my friends who are and do my part for freedom!
Norlanthale
Sun May 02, 2004 6:40 am
#16


heeeeyyyy. My dancer is a novice pistoleer and shes pretty good in combat. I mean I went to Dathomir (Nightsister cave) and was dancing for the Nightsister Elder. Put on a good show. Was actually amazed that she didn't attack me right away. I ran up to her. She just stood there. I started dancing....to my amazement she turned and started clapping like all of the NPC's in the cantina do. I got some screenshots of it. Shame the ui actiontoolbar is in the way. I almost typed that out like a command for a macro lol. Anyways I dont have enough skill points currently to do a full P v P template with her. Why? Master Droid Engineer Master Dancer Novice Pistoleer with Ranged 2 and Surveying 3. I was all of that minus the Novice pistoleer with Ranged 3 and survey 4. That capped me at 250 skill points.


Anyways with the new entertainer droids I can throw birds at them to confuse them and make them miss me. Toss confetti so thier flamethrowers hit the paper and light them on fire too. Fog them out and hit the smoke animation. Nothing funnier than you dancing then hitting smoke then a quick stop dance to a roll to kneeling while you start shooting. The smoke covered you. That takes practice to do really. I think I got it to look good once......just once. But was still fun.




Message Edited by Norlanthale on 05-02-2004 10:40 AM

Kalia
Sun May 02, 2004 6:59 am
#17






Sultrina wrote:

An excelent start, but you left out some crucial elements


1. Wear Brightly colored clothes so you can be seen and targeted from a distance.


2. Spam your light show in an attemt to mezzmorize the other players.


3. Repeatedly ask the oposing side for tips after all you ARE providing them with faction points.








You really need to stop being so bitter Sultrina. It's quite unbecoming of a social class player.



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"You can't take the sky from me."
Esharra
Sun May 02, 2004 9:50 am
#18

I'm so terrible at PvP. It's not a matter of being able to play my combat class. I'm the only melee fighter in my regular hunting group and they're always happy to drag me away from the dancefloor to tank for them. I love solo'ing rancor and I'm darn good at it..I do just fine PvE. But everytime I try PvP it's a disaster I have killed one person in a legitimate PvP fight (not dueling with friends or helping boyfriend go covert) and then I almost forgot to DB! I'm such a dork! But I do love fighting, the trashtalk, the excitement..it's all great fun.


So now I'm obligated to explain my sandbox theory of what's wrong with PvP in MMOG. Remember when we were kids..we'd have the most wonderful wars, kill each other repeatedly, call each other awful names and break everyone's toys. Then we'd all go back to someone's house for rice krispie cakes and all would be right with the world.


The reason PvP seems to die out periodically, causes stress or otherwise gets on people's nerves is we have no rice krispie cakes. Without that make your teeth hurt & stick to the roof of your mouth goodness, resentment sets in..people start actually feeling hate toward each other.


We just need to figure out how to shove those squares through the wires and it'd all be good.





Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)


TheSillyOne
Sun May 02, 2004 10:16 am
#19

Ok here's a nifty little bit of stratedgy for you. I've not done this since the recent patch and I'm told they made some changes to the Squad leader abilities. I hope this would still work.


If you have a Squad Leader in your group he has the ability to issue a command that shares the wounds of everyone in the group. If you have scout you can set up a small camp outside of the fight (works best on offensive maneuvers) if you don't have scout someone else will have to set up and stay with the camp. I suggest keeping at least a novice medic with you as well. As the diseases start to tick the squad leader can share the wounds of the group and you can dance to syphen them off. If you have a medic around they can heal themselves and you to keep health and action wounds to a minimum as well. This is not as effective in healing as it would be for someone to come and watch you but at the same time it doesn't pull them out of the battle. Another benefit to having this camp set up this way is that anyone who just got res'ed can high tail it to the camp waypoint and rebuff.



-silly-


Save your breath. You'll need it later to blow up your date.
SianGali
Sun May 02, 2004 1:19 pm
#20


Wow this thread is taking off nice job -silly- !

Good question about leaving the base. Two part response:

-The base I often help defend belongs to a guild with a few other master dancers. At least one of which isoften present. When we are both availablewe cannot always be in the same group so weeacheach mind buff our own. She thenoftenstays in the base to dance. Their templates don't have fighting skills and they are happy to keep dancing while I play a little.

-If I'm the only dancer they all know to call me to the basewhen I'm needed. I just wouldn't be pleased sitting in there dancing for noone while the battle rages around me, I have a penchant for findingtrouble...

As for foods -silly- I will ask around for you. I'm honestly a brandy canape addict myself. Even if we are lucky enough to have two dancers we areusually so busy buffing our own groupsit's rare we get them from each other. I am fortunate to have a wonderful guildy who keeps me in stock, buying those two things alone can reallyrun up the cost of PvP.

Pistoleer suggestion- My guy just found someone with a great Geno blaster they were willing to part with. (stun damage, yay!) Servers vary but good stun armor is still pretty rare on ours or so expensive most folks haven't bought it yet. If you are friends with alot of fighters let them know you are looking for a geno blaster. Most guys wouldbe happy to help their dancer and if they aren't pistoleers can't use it anyway. I myself found one in horrible need of repair for cheap. As long as it doesnt break I'll end up with a sweet deal, if it does I'll view what I paid as a rental fee lol.

-stats I myself have mind and health even with a little more points in action. I won't migrate everything to mind because i'm afraid to become doctor dependant. I can almost always find a doctor but don't always have time to fly to another planet.


-sian



(Asania.)___(DfR)____(Sian)
.NN

SianGali
Sun May 02, 2004 1:21 pm
#21

Gah please excuse the double post above, when I grow up I'll have an edit button.

-sian



(Asania.)___(DfR)____(Sian)
.NN

FuschiaD
Sun May 02, 2004 2:03 pm
#22






SianGali wrote:

Gah please excuse the double post above, when I grow up I'll have an edit button.

-sian







*giggle* Me too. I miss my edit button


I think PvP is a BLAST. I LOVE it. The adrenaline, the excitement, even the trash talk. But I'm TERRIBLE at it. It doesn't help that my combat profession of choice (pistoleer) is great for PvE and lousy for PvP. But I try anyway. And when I get killed, it pisses me off to NO extent. So I stopped doing it. LOL


I still enjoy hunting... but whenever someone says in guildchat "Hey, does anyone wanna go raid *insert Rebel player city here*" I'm usually quick to decline. I only go if there are LOTS of other people going I can hide behind, or I'm feeling suicidal.





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Morwen
Sun May 02, 2004 11:28 pm
#23






TheSillyOne wrote:


there are 8 pieces to a full set of armor.






Nine. Did you forget your helmet?

TheSillyOne
Mon May 03, 2004 12:31 pm
#24

*counts on her fingers*


boots

legs

chest

2 bicep

2 bracers

helmet



aaaaahhhhh!!! GLOVES!


yeah, forgot the gloves.


modify that macro accordingly and use the second row of hotkeys to put the last item in... my bad.



-silly-


Save your breath. You'll need it later to blow up your date.
Leonae
Tue May 04, 2004 7:33 am
#25

There are a couple of things you can do which are very helpful in battle and don't require either a huge amount of skillpoints or very expensive gear.


Intimidate and War Cry. Those require only Novice Brawler (15 skill points), and can make a huge difference in a fight, Intimidate halves the damage a target does, and lowers defenses considerabily. Best of all, it is no "real" attack - you have a good chance to hit someone with it even as novice (and can spam it anyway). War Cry is a cone attack (Brawlers are lobbying to make it an area attack) that makes the targets unable to attack for 10 seconds, or until they are hit by an enemy - whichever comes first. Again, not many have defenses against it, and you can spam it. Bio enhanced clothing can make it more effective, meaning it will stick more often.


If you use intimidate on opponents and war cry (especially bunched up enemies) you can make a difference. Sure, docs and squadleaders can heal states, but if they do this they don't do anything else, and you can reapply Intimidate at any time.


If you do shoot at an enemy, /aim and a lower posture can help you to hit one of those hard targets. What works better, spamming fast shots and hoping you hit once or carefully aiming depends on your character.


What other opportunities you have depends on your character. As a TKM, I can apply stun and blind, which further reduce an enemy's ability to strike at your friends or yourself, and I can hit most targets fairly well. Unless up against a soft target like a BH KD works not too well anymore against serious pvpers, better would be to try to stick dizzy and then posture change. Since as a TKA you can hit all pools with a targetted attack, check before you blindly spam UA3.



TheSillyOne
Tue May 04, 2004 3:52 pm
#26

/cheer Leonae!!!!!



I personally like the /warcry;/intimidate;/runlikehell macro I have set up.


burst run is your friend


On Starsider Lenore is my tailor of choice because she specializes in dance gear as well as bio buffed for defense clothing(basically her vendors are dancer friendly).


For me ( and I know this may not hold true for everyone) I just want to live long enough to heal up my group and rebuff. Basically I'm trying to not be a liability.



Leonae, you seem to be very familiar with PvP. Any chance you might have some stat migration tips?



-silly-


Save your breath. You'll need it later to blow up your date.
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