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Thread: Red Light Districts in Player Cities

Sinda
Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:52 pm
#14

We already have red light districts -- that's those private cantinas that dot every server calling themselves "Gentlemen's Clubs" and such. I'm fully confident that when player cities go in, we're going to see several who dedicate the whole city to the arts of pleasure. Fine.


I don't like the fact that the Devs are sticking that name on the option arbitrarily, though. They can call it an "Entertainment District" if they want and then the players can determine the real tone of activities there without having a seedy label stuck on them if they don't want it. Leave the final decision to the players instead of giving the impression that only brothels will work for this bonus.


In Anarchy Online, the Entertainment District included a couple of bars with lurid neon signs outside depicting half-dressed female body parts, but of course they were empty inside and it was all for atmosphere. If they can do it, so can SOE.





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TakeelahSunrise
Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:41 pm
#15

It doesn't bother me that they are called Red Light districts. Not really a big deal in my opinion. What is going to matter to me is that the place I am dancing in has a decent reputation and bouncers! I will dance there, but I don't want to be harassed, either by emote or cyber tells.



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LoraRevan
Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:54 pm
#16

Ravenmist can we get the offical word on this?



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YandTracer
Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:45 am
#17

As a male dancer, I would be interested to see the sort of treatment male dancers would get for dancing in a "Red Light District" - *yuck* I hate that name too... says interesting about the Devs.




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Lunah75
Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:12 am
#18

Ok I can tell ya our PA has plans to let me drop the cantina for our player city when it goes online and if it is still termed red light distrcit and is visible as that to all, I will not drop it there. I am by no means a prude by truly do consider the title red light district offensive. If however only the mayor can see it labeled as that and no one else I may drop it there just for the heal bonuses. Let us hope they will fix this on TC and we will get a better title for it when it hits our servers!






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Akamo
Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:12 pm
#19

Hey, since TC went back up, I've been in there a bit more and SlickRiptide had his info right on part of his post. A 'part' of a city doesn't get zoned, actually. It's an all-or-nothing for the whole city. They're called "City Specializations". The entertainer cities happen to be called "red light districts".


I do think it's probably not visible to other players (except those who actually bother to read the politician skill tree). Also, my half-baked memory served me incorrectly on the entertainment bonus, it is 10%, not 20% as I previously reported.


I still hope the name gets changed, though...

Ravenmist
Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:31 am
#20

Update on this one, we got them to change the name. Don't ya'll fret none. No way me or Slick would of let them put something like this into the game.
PinkRoziz
Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:20 am
#21

Would be nice if they gave an option of making the town either for arts and entertainment or a red light district this way towns have a choice. There are some people in game that are going for a more criminal approach and having a 'dirty' part of town would be a nice option. However I am all supportive of getting this prostituterep that us dancers have in game. I had a guild member drop because she got too many requests for cybersex. On the other hand I never had anyone ask me for that service. But i do know it is a problem.



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Brianna_Folliot
Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:29 am
#22






Ravenmist wrote:
Update on this one, we got them to change the name. Don't ya'll fret none. No way me or Slick would of let them put something like this into the game.





Thank you to both of you for getting this changed!


I can't tell you how much something so little would have impacted many of us so greatly in the game because I'm sure you are already aware.


You two get the cookie of the day award for this, to each your very own cookie! *laughs*






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Hypatian
Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:35 am
#23

Yay! Three cheers for Ravenmist!

As a note to everybody else: what I've seen suggests that the various "bonus skills" are city-wide. I don't know if they're exclusive or not. From the sound of it, they are. So a city can be *one* of:

Manufacturing Center: -10% crafting assembly failure rate
Research Structure: +15% crafting experimentation
Clone Lab: -20% cloning cost
Stronghold: +50% defense bonus to militia members
Improved Job Market: +20% mission payout
Medical Center: +10% medical healing effectiveness
(Arts District?): +10% entertainment healing effectiveness

So each player city can possibly be *one* of these things. Based on that, a skilled mayor is going to try to find the task that's right for the local city. Research Structure is a no-brainer, but if the whole world is full of those, it's not a very exciting world. I could see improved job market, clone lab and the healing arts being popular on the tougher worlds (especially if clone labs reduces insurance costs), and stronghold being popular in the high PvP areas.

Depending on how city growth and the like works, I suspect that we may end up with clusters of "cities", rather than solitary large cities. You need a large one for shuttle services from all accounts, but if you can have smaller cities around the edges providing various specializations, well, that's interesting. We'll see what happens.

Oh, and of course the specialization could change as time goes on. Need more crafters? Specialize in crafting to entice them to the area. etc. etc.

Just wanted to point that out so people would understand that it's unlikely that a city will *have* an arts district and more likely that it will *be* an arts district. (Or whatever they change the name to.)


And thanks again, Ravenmist! Red Light District was... way way too much.



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EnergyBaron
Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:19 am
#24

So? Who cares if they can make red light districts. The star wars atmosphere isn't exactly all calm and happy and graceful dancers. Just cause they're there doesn't mean you have to dance in them. I think alot of people will be happy to get away from the regular cantina setting and regular role playing and niceness and try something new.
Hypatian
Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:11 am
#25

EnergyBaron: ...

You know, it's people like you who make me think maybe I should drop all my dancing skills and never look back. Gee, thanks.



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EnergyBaron
Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:23 pm
#26

Ummm why do I make you think that. Because I don't have a squeaky clean image of the Star Wars universe? Because I preferdark and grittyness?

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