Dancer Archive
Thread: wow, i never realized untill yesterday
Soulburner69
Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:31 pm
#14
"..nor do I think the random 15 yr olds that play this game needtoo."
Tagger just a quick question, but have you thought that in a large ratio of the "roleplay out, their cyber sex in spatial" are the 13 to 16 croud that play this game, heck for example,just go into a chat room, and look at the ages of some of the kids in them asking for cyber, and other stuff
but with the whole harassment of us dancers, it is annoying, i was dancing in the bestine cantina and some guy came in, and started being a pig to myself and a friend, the people in the cantina did the basic /addignore, and the /report, but strangely enough we never heard from the guy again, so i guess enough people did a /report on him to cause some feedback, or most of what he was saying was more than out of hand and he was booted, or something.
i just find it really pathetic how people can act like that in a game, where in many cases they wouldnt be able to do it in real life as they would get beat, or arrested in real life. that and i figure it gives them a sence of power that they can do it to people without any reprecussions, it must be a way to stroke their ego, or make them feel powerfull in their miniscule pea sized brains.
Lesia
Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:34 am
#15
I sometimes wonder how many dancers actuallysell themselves and if this doesn'thelp to createpoor behavior. Sure, I've been offered big credits for more than a dance.But even when I was starting out, and 12k was A LOT of credits, I turned them down. I'll do a "private dance" in one of the side rooms, but that's all they get... a dance. (Lapdance=exotic 2) If they ask for more, it's not happening. It's just not the reputation I want. If gentlemengive me gifts, I'll accept them, it's how I make my living as an entertainer, but they'll be disappointed if the expect anything more than a dancein return. Maybe if entertainers weren'tso dependent on tips and gifts then we wouldn't be giving a wrong impression. That aside, I'd betthere are dancers, maybe just a tiny few, who would "do favors" for credits and gifts and this might encourage improper behavior on the part of some ofthe patrons.
Nevertheless, thanks for assisting a fellow dancer!
ArgentWulf
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:55 am
#16
There are more then just a few, I'm sorry to say.
Lesia wrote:
. . . .I'd betthere are dancers, maybe just a tiny few, who would "do favors" for credits and gifts and this might encourage improper behavior on the part of some ofthe patrons.
Nevertheless, thanks for assisting a fellow dancer!
It wouldn't take a lot of looking to find places that cater to "adult" entertainment. . . .and it does gives the entire prof. the wrong image.
Xyrdre
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:56 am
#17
Yes, this kind of thing happens. I personally haven't seen it to that extent very often, but lesser degrees are more frequent. Usually if you don't react to their first round, they stop it and go off to try to give someone else grief... but maybe I just have a slightly thicker skin.
The vast majority of people are extremely well-behaved and very polite. But there are a few who ruin it for everyone.
The times that the bad ones have come in, it hasn't been a problem for long. My troupe was performing one night live in Theed, just to give one of the hologrind capitols a taste of a what a real show should be like. And sure enough... some slob comes in 'Wazzup, b**ches'... and it was over for him. He was immediately surrounded by 5 of our appreciative spectators, who managed to convince the guy to duel (I presume) and spent what seemed like the next ten minutes beating the guy incapped repeatedly. Wouldn't DB the guy, because they wanted to do it again...
I think a lot of it comes down to how the dancers portray themselves as well. If you play the role of a tramp, you're more likely to bring out this kind of a reaction. Surprise. If you maintain a higher level of class, it won't prevent the scum from starting up, but I've found that a lot of other players react to defend the honor of the lady, and step in. And some dancers I know, who also happen to be TKM, just take matters into their own bare hands...
The vast majority of people are extremely well-behaved and very polite. But there are a few who ruin it for everyone.
The times that the bad ones have come in, it hasn't been a problem for long. My troupe was performing one night live in Theed, just to give one of the hologrind capitols a taste of a what a real show should be like. And sure enough... some slob comes in 'Wazzup, b**ches'... and it was over for him. He was immediately surrounded by 5 of our appreciative spectators, who managed to convince the guy to duel (I presume) and spent what seemed like the next ten minutes beating the guy incapped repeatedly. Wouldn't DB the guy, because they wanted to do it again...
I think a lot of it comes down to how the dancers portray themselves as well. If you play the role of a tramp, you're more likely to bring out this kind of a reaction. Surprise. If you maintain a higher level of class, it won't prevent the scum from starting up, but I've found that a lot of other players react to defend the honor of the lady, and step in. And some dancers I know, who also happen to be TKM, just take matters into their own bare hands...
kirah_ashlin
Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:08 am
#18
This is whyi 1) only dance alone in my city cantina and 2) only dance outside my city cantina when my husband is with me. And even then he has to . . . um . . . gently remind some patrons how to behave in front of a lady.
Kreistor
Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:00 am
#19
ArgentWulf wrote:
There are more then just a few, I'm sorry to say.
Yes, unfortunate but true.
Heck, there's a player PA hall on my server that's an 'Adult Lounge', with erotic dancing unpstairs and more downstairs.
That alone doesn't help too much.
CaptainStormy
Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:49 am
#20
yea, ive heard of a few places like that on my server. Havent been to them so i cant verify, but im sure they are what people say they are. Its really quite sad.
on another note, i started a alt on bria to killa little time while none of my friends on naritus are online ( most my friends log on late so i spend alot of time alone and bored ) as a dancer. its kinda fun and defenatly diffrent then my normal fighting and healing bit.
kirah_ashlin
Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:38 am
#21
Well then CS - we invite you to visit us in lovely Veritas! The Luna is always packed withwell behaved PA members and our little live entertainment only cantina, Howling Santurary, will be openning soon, too!
Einhinder
Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:16 am
#22
this is quite common unforyunatly one guy on my server Shadow-cat has called all dancers who*** slu&&& and easy woman as well as Cu*** and other such stuff. weve all reported him numourous times but of course nothing happens what really gets me is a few weeks ago i saw him in coronett doing dancer for his holo grind.
Tiaga
Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:27 pm
#23
When I mastered dancer, holocrons were still an odd piece of loot that didn't do anything. Most entertainers were ATK most the time.
I learned two things. First, I learned entertainers stick together. Someone who was abusive to one entertainer quickly found that nobody would perform for them.
The second thing I learned is that male or female, you'll have to deal with these people, just in different ways. Neither really more or less pleasant than the other.
Fortunately those people are in the minority, and usually aren't very well armed for a battle of wits. They do sometimes seem like a lot because they are loud and make themselves noticed.
I learned two things. First, I learned entertainers stick together. Someone who was abusive to one entertainer quickly found that nobody would perform for them.
The second thing I learned is that male or female, you'll have to deal with these people, just in different ways. Neither really more or less pleasant than the other.
Fortunately those people are in the minority, and usually aren't very well armed for a battle of wits. They do sometimes seem like a lot because they are loud and make themselves noticed.
Kitachiira
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:43 pm
#24
CaptainStormy wrote:
Dark_Paradox wrote:
but aparently they are the same guys who get the girls... go figure.
well, LoL, I have never had any troubles getting a girl myself so i cant really commit about that. Im engaged to a absoulutly wonderful lady.
wow, i was really hoping this was kinda a once in a lifetime treatment. its guys like that giving the rest of us bad names.
1. Dark_Paradox: Yes they get the girls but the girls are typically very insecure and think they deserve bad treatment for various reasons ( at least the ones who go out with the really bad ones). Unfortunately that's mostly what's out there. Not too many nice guys out there in rl.
2. CaptainStormy: you just be darn sure you remember how wonderful that lady is AFTER you're married! After nearly 12 years for me and mine, he's forgetful and needs that proverbial smack up the side of the head sometimes!
Clients like these are the reason why I stick to places like Tatand Dath. Very quiet and the patrons area LOTnicer. To me anyway. Mind you, I'm not selling any "wares" like a small number so maybe they know they won't get anywhere. Either that or they're just so happy to have someone there, they dont' want to screw it up
JEAUX_ZUF
Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:37 pm
#25
wow....i feel sorry for those dancers (thought i avoid the cantina in coronet...cantins seem to lag me more and more thease days, but cnet is the worst)
hehe...i had to do dancer for a holo (and enjoyed it!) and i was asked to duel a few times....read my sig....
Stryider
Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:20 am
#26
May i defend the men in the world? I dont mean to sound rude, but not all men are that way. I know you didnt say that all men are that way, but see you seem to think alot are. I really suppose it depends on where you live in the world. See i live in cali, and there are share of men who are that way, and there are tons of them who dont. I do agree that way to many are so rude like that, but please do remember that there are those of us men who try to keep the others in line.Men need to treat women like humans, and not toys or objects. I am sorry about the way that we generally act, but keep in mind that there are those who do our best to stop this. I sincerely apologize for anything that we do, and you have my word that i will continue to do my best to the keep the men that i come in contact with in line. As for how entertainers aretreated, you are right, they are severly abused, and not ever payed enough. Its not just the women either, yes i know that the women have to deal with the stupidity of men, but those men who r not like the rest, and stick up for women then are shunned. I had a case where the whole city of bestine refused to interact withme do to the fact that this one group of people seemed to be in charge, and i wouldnt allow them to humiliate a few people se**ually. Sadly the CSR people do nothing. But whatcan we do, but stick it out.