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Thread: Entertainer Deny Services Function Request. Join the movement.

Likeet
Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:49 pm
#14

I love the idea of a /refuse service option.


I don't like ignore because what if in the off chance they say something that needs to be heard by you in the future, or it gets so out of hand it needs to be reported to SOE directly?


To have it set up where you can individually refuse someone service would be welcomed in a player run cantina ias well because people who can ban can't be on 24/7 to kick people out.

Zaltod
Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:47 pm
#15

I personally would have never have to use this but I know alot of people who would sign me up

Grexor
Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:55 pm
#16

On Starsider/Bestine cantina when we encounter a real jerk we just all stop playing/dancing. Usually there is a decent crowd so the jerks actions affect them and they pressure them to act decent. Only had to be done once so far, but it worked. Passive resistance if you will.
Ilooli
Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:38 am
#17

I have mixed feelings about this. A lot of players find it annoying enough that they have to go to cantinas at all in order to get back to what they really want to be doing. Letting dancers turn off service as a kind of tip-enforcement measure is not going to make players feel better about their cantina visits. And isn't that the point of being an entertainer, whether dancer or musician?At least, you should have to ignore a player entirely to deny service. It ought to be a means of preventing disruptive or harassing players from getting a benefit from the performance, not a bargaining tool.



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Ninja007
Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:10 am
#18

RIIIIIGHT. Because you uniquely need a special command to punish those who bother you. based on YOUR version of events or mood. Garbage.



This is a thinly veiled attempt at forcing people to pay you to get xp. If "abuse" was really at issue here, you already have your wish: /ignore.



You won't get any such filth until I get /denyXP. And even then...your class will go the way of the dodo when the inevitable Mind Stim is introduced.

Jomina
Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:19 am
#19

Hey ninja, you are sorely mistaken if you think if we get tips, we get exp. we get exp for doing flourishs. not for receiving tips. how about you know what you are talking about before you go flaming the profession?



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Relica
Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:39 am
#20

So Ninja, we shouldn't be able to deny people like the guy I had last night that told me if I sucked his &*&* I would get more tips, because of our version or the mood? How else would anyone else take it other then abuse?


You, my dear, are an ignorant fool.



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PS: I agree with some sort of Deny function. I wouldn't have to use it much but would be great to know I had the power to.

Miragel
Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:26 am
#21

I agree with the deny, however I can see the concern for abuse of a command like that, plus I'm not sure if it would solve the prolem. I'm convinced that some ppl come into cantina to harass ppl, as some ppl walk into a strip club to bother the dancers.... some ppl are just badly wired in the head.


I dont know that deny will fex the problem, they can still watch other dancers. What one dancer sees as abuse, another may see as a business oppertunity. to each their own. I will add to the deny petition, but I am just putting my opinion in.


I still kinda hope it gets implimented though...


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ClearAqua
Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:47 am
#22

I expect this isn't a popular opinion, but if someone is making lewd suggestions or cantina griefing, we don't need /denyservices, we need to be /reporting them. Denying services is too easy to abuse as a solution to minor problems or to coerce tips - and there is nothing to keep the offender from doing it again and again. But if someone's behavior is serious enough that it's offensive to the person it's aimed at or disrupting the performance or disrupting other players trying to get healed, then we should just /report the jerks.


But I think the number of threads and opinions on appropriate behavior in cantinas reveals a dilemna for this game. They've created a game where sex sells, and now wehave to figure out how to navigate it within the "community standards" we all agree to abide by. I'm not entirely pleased with what I've seen of how that's going so far, but I suppose I'm just an old prude ...


KJaydeck3
Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:09 am
#23


I've been reading lots of Dancer complaints/ideas and I think it is really important to be able to deny services, though not because people don't tip. Not every player has a mazillion credits to takt the time to tip every dancer or musician. I understand this, and also that on top of that it is a choice not an obligation. But there are some down right rude people that play this game, and frankly I feel violated that they come in, call me names, type abusive actions (and so on) and still get to be healed by me and my band mates.


So maybe, since I agree that a /deny command could very easily be abused, there should be more ways for entertainers to make money.




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Subcriminal
Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:42 am
#24

Yes, this is a good idea- however I agree there is potential for abuse but not to the scale where it would be a problem.


Just about all the entertainers I have met are not the sort of people who would abuse this /deny service function should it come about. The majority of entertainers entertain primarily because they enjoy it, not to squeeze blood form a stone when it comes to tips.


So my best guess would be that any abuse of this feature would be minimal.


In my experience I have only had two audience members who were rude, both of whom quickly remembered their manners and apologizedwhen I told them "Sorry, I'm not that kind of girl." So there is hope An enterainer would only use this as a last resort. Paranoia about rampant abuse is a little unwarranted.


I did have one case where I was verbally accosted by another dancer for no reason other than she didn't like what I was wearing *shrug* ! Luckily I have not crossed paths with this individual since then- so be careful my fellow dancers! Heheheh, there are wolves in sheep's clothing!

Subcriminal
Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:33 pm
#25

Unfortunately I have seen some people posting on other topics with bad attitudes that compell me to support "deny service" with more vigor.


People are going to treat entertainers badly because they can. We are powerless to withhold our healing services in many cases, and they willingly exploit it. My recent motto on these boards has become "Entertainers are NOT SLAVES!!".


Prismata
Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:55 am
#26

In the past when someone has been rude I just stopped dancing. I would like to have a "deny services" command as well as an "access fee" command for my performances.


That being said, I don't have as much of a problem with rude behavior because the community I have committed myself to generally takes them outside and makes them clone . My guys (and gals) take good care of me because I take care of them. There are times however when you know somebody is covert on the other side and it would be nice to deny them services.




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