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Thread: Update as of 3-05-04

Ravenmist
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:45 am
#1

Another PM with Thunderheart has yielded the following bit of information..


He's supposedly pushing really hard to get as much of our stuff as possible into the next publish. (not the one thats currently on TC, the one after, so thats publish 8) I think he wants to know exactly what we'll be getting in publish 8 and what will have to wait til 9 before he gives us any real answers. (more delays, bah, but good ones I guess)


We are suppose to be seeing a lot of new stuff for us in publish 8 and 9. What exactly I can't say, partially because I really don't know everything myself. He's promissed to sit down with me soon. (which could mean anything in the next month. ) and go over all the new stuff going in, our questions etc. and get everything written out so I can tell you whats coming.


Nobody is more sick of the delays then I am but I've got to say that I'm honestly very excited about these upcoming publishes. I've only bits of information right now and nothing I can tell you, but hang in there, this is definately not the time to jump ship.


- Ravenmist
NJ62
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:00 am
#2

I'm tired of the waiting game, but it sounds promising. I should be a master by then



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miralin
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:07 am
#3

/hugs Ravenheart


Thanks for giving us what info you can.





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Kreistor
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:13 am
#4

/cheer Ravenmist


I may be new here, but it doesn't take much to see you're doing your best to help us all out.


Thanks Ravenmist!






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picklesSW
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:40 am
#5

More hints about future publishes. More carrots to keep us playing a game that has become increasingly hostile to socializers.

Tell me why I should sit here and believe any of this given our recent history. Tell me why this isn't the right time to "jump ship", as you put it, because right now I'm not buying it. I cannot count the number of times I've been told "good things are coming", only to be told the same thing a month later after nothing has been done.

If you have any real information, I encourage you to share it. I'm no longer buying into this diaphanous "good things are coming" speech, which to me has become synonymous with empty and vague promises that never bear fruit.

If you've got no information to share, fine. But don't try and sell me on the "this ain't the time to quit the game" speech without providing something concrete to support that, because at this point sleazy insurance salesmen have more credibility than you and Thunderheart combined.

Sorry to dump, but I've had it.




Kijjik
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:01 pm
#6

Uh huh.




A'Ri Darkpath
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Chessack
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:10 pm
#7

My biggest concern at this point is that they are going to put a ton of stuff we did NOT ask for into publishes 8-9, and continue to ignore and once again fail to address the real concerns we have had (the now-infamous "top 5" which we have submitted something like 3 times now).

C



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YoursTruly
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:46 pm
#8






Ravenmist wrote:

Another PM with Thunderheart has yielded the following bit of information..


He's supposedly pushing really hard to get as much of our stuff as possible into the next publish. (not the one thats currently on TC, the one after, so thats publish 8) I think he wants to know exactly what we'll be getting in publish 8 and what will have to wait til 9 before he gives us any real answers. (more delays, bah, but good ones I guess)


Raven, I know you are trying hard and frustrated, but... What "stuff" is he trying hard to get in for us? He can't be bothered to even give us our top 5 response, but he thinks he has his finger on what "stuff" we want without a dialogue with us? From the attention (or lack, to be accurate) we have been given, I have no faith the "stuff" he is pushing for us is what we want. Let us hear what is planned before all the work is done to develop it. After the complete miss on figuring out what the droid engineers wanted, I would like the opportunity to provide feedback before a huge amount of work is done.


We are suppose to be seeing a lot of new stuff for us in publish 8 and 9. What exactly I can't say, partially because I really don't know everything myself. He's promissed to sit down with me soon. (which could mean anything in the next month. ) and go over all the new stuff going in, our questions etc. and get everything written out so I can tell you whats coming.


This isn't aimed at you, Raven, so don't be offended. TH's promises to provide feedback mean absolutely nothing to me anymore. They have been proven time and again, for months now, to be devoid of any meaning. If he wants us to care about the "promises" at all, then he needs to begin to follow through. Once again, I can't really be excited about "promises" of new stuff from someone who does not keep his promises. If we aren't worth talking to, I don't believe the "promise" that we are worth pushing that hard to help. Again, also, why would I be excited about them putting in changes they think we want when they can't be bothered to talk to us. Are these big changes he is pushing so hard for having the boring worthless entertainer missions maybe bumped up to 2000? That isn't exciting.






I don't mean to take things out on you, but since he can't be bothered to speak to us, please allow us the opportunity to hear these changes andgive feedback before they are thrust upon us, a la droid engineer style. These are people that think that doctors buffing 3000+ to attributes is ok, but I am limited to a 100% buff, and being able to buy a droid to increase that at all would be hideously unbalancing. There may be reasons for it, but I want to hear them, and get a chance to give feedback.


Please don't take offense, Raven. I know you are trying. We are all very frustrated with this.



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Olaca
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:49 pm
#9

Greetings,


Well I'm hanging in there at least until I need the skill points somewhere else. Which at my pace will proabably be after pub 9


Maybe you should send this thread to Thunderheart to read as an example of how the community feels.


Do you hear laughter?


BTW any angst I am feeling, which on a friday is not much, is directed at TH and SOE not you Raven





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Ravenmist
Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:11 pm
#10

I understand the hard feelings, believe me when I say i share them. I can't give what info I don't have, but more then likely we'll at least be seeing some new flourishes or a dance but I won't know for sure until TH finally sits down and talks with me. I do know the dances are done and ready to go in, but when is another story. We should also be seeing more buff UI and other improvements, maybe if we're lucky we'll be able to buff ourselves finally.. these are all things we've been promised.. I guess point is really I don't know yet, soon as I do you'll know to.
Niza
Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:14 pm
#11

Doesn't TH have a boss? Send that person or persons the requests for informationand stop dealing with this guy.



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sweatyclimber
Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:20 pm
#12






Niza wrote:

Doesn't TH have a boss? Send that person or persons the requests for informationand stop dealing with this guy.






exactly TH is full of it if you ask me... at least when it comes to entertainers



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ArgentWulf
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:20 pm
#13


We all feel frustrated! Some more than others (***hugs*** Javy). I think the frustration is tied directly to the amount of time we've spent in this prof. I cant blame some of the Grand Masters around here like Javy (who was a Master before I ever put on my 1st pair of dance shoes ( Lei doesn't want to imply age, but offers respect and admiration.) So what I'm saying is... if good news is comingI hope its soon or there won't be too many ears to hear it. I can empathise with feelings on this board. My patience hasn't reached the breaking point...yet. I can't tell others what to do or how to react, that is up to them. I just hope they are here if/when good news is finally given.



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