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Thread: Dancing one's way to Jedi

TheDarkTrumpet
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:14 pm
#1

Hey all,

I knwo this is a touchy subject to be asking, but I never tried an entertainer based profession. I'm thinking of picking up dancer, since there are some things in the senses tree that I wouldn't mind having, and dancer/musician seems to be one of many ways to get there.

My question basically is, if one was grinding none-stop, maybe 8 or so hours a day, about how many weeks would it require to complete a tree?

My apology again for the touchy question, I hope not to get flamed by this, but for income of experience, I am pretty curious how fast the income is on it.

Thanks,



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Panthu
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:33 pm
#2

We're not really in a great position as far as the FS Path goes... no matter what your motivation is. Check out Goldy's thread here fora Dancer POV. Or Scipionus's new Ent FS FAQ here.


Combat is by far the easiest path to FS/Jedi imo and from my testing. If you are just wanting to play an Ent, we always think that's awesome around here. If you are thinking it will make the path to Jedi faster though, we most likely aren't your best bet. If you just want the FS Tree our bonuses are in, you still most likely want to go with one of the other options.





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picklesSW
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:36 pm
#3

"My question basically is, if one was grinding none-stop, maybe 8 or so hours a day, about how many weeks would it require to complete a tree?"

I'm not sure anyone will be able to answer this question, as entertainers were essentially left out of the "Path to Jedi", so there aren't a lot of dancers with that type of information. Not real dancers, anyway.

In addition, I'm not sure the folks here will look too kindly on you using their profession as some sort of "stepping stone" on your way to uberness. The whole idea with the new quests was to stop that insanity, not encourage it further.

In short, this question is unwise at best.




TheDarkTrumpet
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:42 pm
#4

I realize that most people would take my question in a relatively negative way. I'm not trying to abuse any sort of setup to get to where I want to go - but on the flip side, I don't have tons of time to sit in the game and grind combat exp and stuff over and over again. I'm taking 17cu in college of extrememly tough math classes, and thus need something that doesn't quite take sitting infront of the computer to do all the time.

I'm not proposing using all afk macroing, but dancing/music is generally a task that doesn't need the most active user most times, someone can be at the keyboard doing other things, answering questions, and the like - but doesn't need as much 'dedicated' working.

I do understand your feelings though, as after the holo grind, I'm sure everyone in this forum, as other forums are really not happy with the 'use my profession as a stepping stone' type of deal.

I really hope I didn't offend anyone too bad here, that was not my idea. I just was hoping that I could find something that would be a constant income of exp, that didn't require a powergamer type of attitude to work with.



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Esharra
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:43 pm
#5

If you want to take branches in the Heightened Senses tree..go Medic.



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Panthu
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:51 pm
#6

I'm sure people will still try because we are regarded as the "easiest" Profession group... but that is one of the main reasons why we didn't fight to make this any easier for full time Dancers. I wish we could have gotten the Content and not the easy path still, but this is where we are.


We do not have the Content and we don't have the easy path. Esharra is right, it sounds like you want Medic.




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TheDarkTrumpet
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:56 pm
#7

Alright,

Well thanks again for the information and help.

Medic is a possibility, I guess, since I can make high level stims with my doctor, and use my other character to heal..but I generally dislike the afk tumblers found in almost every place now. Medic, maybe even master medic, may be good though, so possibly I can heal myself while in combat, even when a jedi.

My apologies again if I hit any nerves with people here - that wasn't the intention of this.

Thanks,



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Goldy_Lhim
Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:51 pm
#8

You need to be master medic to even get the healer/persuasion quest. You need to be a master doctor tocomplete the quest on your own.


You need at least novice artisan to get the survey / luck quests as it requires you to survey to complete.


Dancer is "easy" experience, the only major bonus is the cap for Dancing exp is 900k and the cap for Doctor healing is 80k and yet they have the same conversion rate. Regardless I would say that dancing exp is NOT the easiest way to go for grinding out a jediand the senses tree has very little to offer. We get the best exp when we are watched and healing folks, your hard exp grind is highly dependent on others and not as constant as exp you get from combat.


Combat is your best bet to a quick jedi. Yes I know you are not at the computer a lot because of school and are looking for a macroable exp grinder, but if I was SOE I would say "then you will just have to wait longer for a jedi" Honestly, combat will get you what you want faster.


My suggestion if you want some senses branches is to get ranger to go with your combat profession. Scouting exp such as trapping, harvesting and camps all transfer into the Senses FS tree. You can grind your combat and weapon exp while at the same time grind scout exp to transfer to the senses tree by harvesting what you kill.


Good luck




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Dreamland
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:07 pm
#9


Well, asuming you could get 100k dance xp per hour it would take you aproximately 700 hours to grind enough xp for all 6 fs branches.


Bump that to 200k an hour and it would take you 350 hours or so. Its been some time since ive kept track, but i think even at master level itd be less than 100k per hour.


On the combat side,I can get 900k in 3 hours, which with the included combat xp equates to about 60k fs xp which breaks down to around a 350 hour mark to get the xp needed for all 6 branches.


To put that in perspective, Morrowind was calimed by its developers to be about an 80 hour rpg, Baldurs gate 2 one of the hugest crpgs going was claimed to 2 or 300 hours i think.

Message Edited by Dreamland on 09-08-2004 03:11 PM

Esharra
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:14 pm
#10








TheDarkTrumpet wrote:


but I generally dislike the afk tumblers found in almost every place now.





Heh..we can commiserate..you can only imagine how we feel about afk macrotainers and bots. But seriously, if I were intending to go any further into FS, I'd be training medic up right now. Good luck to you.




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Ingrata
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:37 pm
#11

First, I agree with most everyone else, that Dancer is not the way to go. Medic would be a better choice, especially if you want to make any money at all. Since the holo-grind I haven't earned more than 20k on tips... in the last6 months. Before the buff bots, I could make money off of Mind Buffs, but now, I don't even see that cash.


As far as the XP you can grind, it depends on too many factors for any Dancer/Musician to give you a solid idea. If nobody is in the Cantina or nobody in the Cantina is watching/listening to you, you aren't going to get any Entertainment Healing XP. Mastering this type of profession relies heavily upon other players coming in an using your services.





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Knight776
Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:16 am
#12







picklesSW wrote:
...entertainers were essentially left out of the "Path to Jedi", so there aren't a lot of dancers with that type of information. Not real dancers, anyway...




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What do you mean, real dancers?

Message Edited by Knight776 on 09-09-2004 07:18 AM

Message Edited by Knight776 on 09-09-2004 07:19 AM



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Goldy_Lhim
Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:29 am
#13

I was going to ignore that comment ... but since it was brought up




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