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Thread: Entertainer Upgrade! Newsletter #16 Quote

Panthu
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:35 am
#1



2005 is going to be a great year for SWG. We’ve seen some huge changes, delivered on a ton of player requests and we’ve even added additional features. Galaxies is on the Station Access pass, the Combat Upgrade is well underway and looking at the immediate future, we have the Galaxy-wide vendor search, a player association succession system and even an Entertainer upgrade!


- TH in Newsletter #16



So, what are your wildest dreams for the EU?




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Else-Whira
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:45 am
#2

Wildest dreams?

1) reduction in skill points needed for master dancer.
2) self buffing or better yet the total and complete removal of buffs
3) new dances/fixes to the old dances
4) more entertainer specific chat/social content (emotes, moods and entertainer specific chat rooms)
5) afk play made illeagal via EULA and enforcement by CSR.
6) more interactive and creative input abilities in our dancing.
7) better group/partner dancing abilities.
8) NPC cantina revamp (lets get some decco in those places ala the ID tents )
9) more entertainer specific items and quests we can complete as entertainers to get said items.
10) scaled payouts on missions based on group size and dancer skill level.





Colonel Else Whira - Entertainer and Ace Pilot

Kallie - Trader (structures)


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Warryyr
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:48 am
#3

"even an Entertainer Upgrade?" What's that supposed to mean? It's kind of phrased like we're not worthy of an upgrade as much as others, like we're doing all this upgrading, and EVEN an ENTERTAINER Upgrade! Bleh, I'm just being a troublemaker. I'm sure nothing was meant by it, TH just has an uncanny knack for phrasing things in a very odd and unfortunate way.


*ruffles his feathers, then takes a deep breath, then de-ruffles his feathers*


I'm hoping for complete and total invincibility. And TEF's for someone messin' with my Nalargon or Ommni Box.


Also, I want at least 20 new Musician songs, and 20 new dances, and a way to make serious credits as an Entertainer.


Hey, a guy can dream, right?

Warryyr
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:56 am
#4

Hey, sorry about that first blurb up there. I hit the button on the machine for the highest strength coffee, but I think I got ripped off.


So, is this the "announcement" we've been waiting for? I think everyone pretty much knew we'd be getting worked on in the non-combat profession revamp after the CU.

Panthu
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:56 am
#5

*nerfs the Wook's trouble making*


Good list, Else!


Let's see more of those! /cheer




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Warryyr
Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:04 am
#6

*falls to the ground, thoroughly nerfed*


If only I'd followed the age old rule, "Thou shalt not screw with Panthu." Oh, the pain, the pain of it all.....

Ikewe
Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:05 am
#7






Panthu wrote:



So, what are your wildest dreams for the EU?





My wildest dreams for the EU are that starting tomorrow (March 5) at 4:00am Central Time, no one will be allowed to dance or play music while AFK. Any found violating that rule will be instantly banned and their characters possessions and bank accounts will be randomly distributed to the entertainers on the server.


My more realistic dreams for the EU:


AFK dance and music will be stopped/prohibited and those found doing it will be banned.


Entertainers who can buff will be able to buff themselves


Our elite professions will be more powerful to justify expending more skillpoints than an elitecombat profession. That power can be done in any number of ways from implementing scaled mission payouts and entertainer specific loot rewards for non-combat mission (including SEAs!!) to granting us defense bonuses so that someone who is both Master Dancer and Master Musician can successfully escape from aggressive thugs.


Our dances will be fixed and all of them will have 8 distinct flourishes (even better would be that they all have 8 flourishes that I like but that might just be getting carried away).


Deny Service will work like Add Ignore


Entertainers will have Village Quests and will have the ability to receive FS skills that enhance their performance or their mindbuffing percentage


Questrewards will not be "barely there" clothing.


We'll get more"performance specific" effects including a /troupedancechange command


My dream list for this profession could go on and on and on, so I'll just stop here and reiterate that the number one change I would absolutely need to see for my dreams to be fulfilled is the cessation of the ability to dance or play music while afk. That just needs to go and it needs to go NOW.


Ikewe









Ikewe, Master Dancer, Shadowfire
When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.


Landlubber
Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:08 am
#8






Warryyr wrote:

... TH just has an uncanny knack for phrasing things in a very odd and unfortunate way.






Ain't that the truth...




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Esharra
Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:35 am
#9






Unattended play is antithetical to multi-player gaming and undermines the whole concept of "social professions". It has to go.



Interdependency without Slavery. (I'm writing slogans for new bumper stickers for the Gypsymobile)


A primary game function/mechanic that is about making Our game time fun, rather than facilitating the funfor everyone else.


Affect the server to client synching of avatar location in the world so that latency no longer causes ournon-stationary base dancesto appear to the vieweras though we are having a seizure while ice skating.


More dances..we know they are there.


More flourishes for the exotics..(what? you paid for all that mocap so no one would ever see them?)




No more falls! Falling is un-challenging (we've no way to prevent them at master)and un-fun. Falling does not constructively contribute to gameplay and is detrimental to our ability to provide quality performances. A "fall flourish" would be a fun rp tool, make it part of Exotic (1).

More songs! Give me 20 of them! I want at least three full sets. Sure..I'd love more..but I'll settle for having as many as the jukebox.


One word: Xantha.


Casino games for player cantinas.


Usable stages in player theaters!!


Fix the instrument bugs & let me use my playback droid in space.


Panthu's Props List


Deila's Fame System & revamp of the theater quests.


An Entertainer Themepark rewarding us with admission to Jabba's Throneroom


An information mini-game that ties us to the GCW.


Aurellian Village Quests and a greater tie to the FS system than watching the AFK doctors dance their way to Jedi.


A viable means of obtaining income and loot so we're booted out of this poverty level existence and I can quit using an alt to make brandy for the masses and get back to spending my in-game time doing what is fun for me.


(I reserve the right to edit with absolutely no notice whatsoever. I'm not copying this to the Musician thread as Scip hears me b!tch enough already.)

Message Edited by Esharra on 03-04-2005 02:34 PM



Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)


DarkY0da
Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:17 am
#10

A vision statement on what the Devs want our game play to be, and our role in the interdependency of this game (what we need and why, and what others need from us and why)

Remove the ability for ALL professions to afk through the game.

A fully fleshed out and viable game for Ents, along with DIFFERENT things for the different professions so as to make their game play uniquely theirs.

A free year’s subscription for those that were here when they inflicted the hologrind on us.

Better tools for performing. So that we can better make our songs ours. Our dances ours.

50 more dances, 200 more songs.

More instruments (50), make the ones we have unique sounding.

Make it so that /pausem pauses my music for those listening but keeps them hearing the rest of the group. (I want them to be able to hear my Droid solos)

A FRS/Ent Quest based Ranking system with special rewards for the top 10. (I want a limo vehicle...)

I want to be worth the Skill point investment. NOT for them to decrease it as they think we aren't worth it!!!!

I want them to treat these Professions like they honestly believe we are an exciting new thing to MMORPGs. I want them to put the effort into making them that. So that years from now ALL MMORPGs have classes/professions like this. I guess I want them to believe that BS they put out there.



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Shaizann
Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:30 am
#11

I thought the exact same thing Warryr did. I don't think Thunderheart can phrase soemthing such that it does not sound insulting.


"Even an entertainer upgrade..."


How nice..."We even took the time to put together an after though about you entertainer folk!"


He should have said "and the entertainer upgrade!"



Shailas V. Zann
Elder Grand Master Entertainer



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kirah_ashlin
Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:32 am
#12


I don't know if I have any wild dreams left for dancer, Pan . . . Aside from certain gatherings and Cantina Crawls I don't play very much anymore.



  • I want AFKing to become a banable offense (I think the characters should be set upon by CSR commandos and fried to a never-again recognizable crisp).

  • I want quest loot that is either not clothing or non-gender restricted - male entertainers could use that +5 mind enhancement, too (as could musicians).

  • I want the devs to stop treating us as if we are "even" entertainers (yes I know, TH does indeed have a knack for phrasing things so very wrong).

Most of the posts above say what I want. Now, do you want to know what I think we will get?


No, I didn't think so . . . . . . . . . .
Panthu
Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:44 am
#13

Well, I think TH probably does see Combat as the main game and then Crafting after that... and then the rest of us, but, knowing how he plays his Dancer really cleared that up for me.


He's the kind that sort of lives in one cantina (a player Cantina I think)... he logs in, chats for a while if people are there, and then leaves to go play around in the outdoors if it gets too slow or someone obnoxious comes in. He's never buffed anyone and he still had not mastered last I heard. So, it makes sense that he sees Entertaining as an add on kind of thing based on how he's played it.


I don't think he means to be rude, I think that's just how he thinks Ent is played the most fun, as a side. He's also never done group performances, so, he's just a little limited in his Ent play experiences is all.


Anyway, TH isn't handling the EU, so, don't sweat it. The Dev who is in charge of the upgrade has been lurking the forums lately though...


Remember, Devs do more for happy players who will appreciate their effort! Creative types love to see people excited about their work!




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