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Thread: I think this might be it. Somebody talk me down.

Groovymarlin
Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:38 pm
#1

Today, the official SWG "Friday Feature" is a "Full Macro How-To and Full Command List."

Never mind the fact that the thing was written by someone who quit the game months ago, and that it's inaccurate and out-of-date. I just want to know whose BRILLIANT idea it was to post this thing as a Friday Feature? I mean, come on! Why don't they post a Friday Feature on "How to Spam at Starports" or "How to Dupe Credits" or "How to Double-Slice Weapons?"

The same developers who tell us they don't like afk macroing, they realize it's a problem, they want it to go away - and they post a macro guide on the official website of the game, as a Friday Feature.

I really find it difficult to express my disgust adequately. Am I overreacting here?

:-<



La'lepa Ofo

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AFKing is not entertaining - support real entertainers

NJ62
Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:41 pm
#2

I am shocked as well. It seems inconsistent to seemingly encourage something that many devs have admitted is undesirable, as well as put the time and effort into schooling the masses about elements that are going to be eliminated.



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NJ62
Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:46 pm
#3

From the illustrious guide...

/alias Dance /startdance rhythmic; /pause 5; /floiurish1; /pause 20; /fourish7; /pause 20; /flourish 4; /stopdance;

/alias Dance2 /startdance formal; /pause 5; /floiurish4; /pause 20; /fourish2; /pause 20; /flourish 6; /stopdance;


Class, what's wrong with this macro?



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AtheneNoctua
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:07 pm
#4

I was about to write a lengthy tirade but decided on quoting the article instead:

"It is confusing I know but this it how Sony did it."



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stephypoo
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:14 pm
#5

I saw it, but I refuse to look at it. It makes me angry.


And if they are really desribing our flourishes like that, I am just appalled. Do they proof read the stuff they put up for the public?


/FLOURISH 1. Its *not* that difficult. They could at least keep the misspelling consistant


/throwhandsupindisgust



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Groovymarlin
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:19 pm
#6

What's really shocking is it's not a Friday Feature - it's a Wednesdy Feature!

Ok really I think it's a featured guide or something. Whatever it is, it's officially sponsored and prominently featured. And it makes me sick.



La'lepa Ofo

Master Dancer :: Master Swordswoman :: Force Sensitive
AFKing is not entertaining - support real entertainers

Reachwind
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:20 pm
#7

I see the entertainer correspondent already chimed in and deflected/defended instead of showing outrage.

Ah well.

Any hope the entertainer community has at this point rests with Combat Assist bot breaking the game.
DeathsEgo
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:32 pm
#8

Go Go STEVE!!!



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Doriana
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:35 pm
#9

Well..

I think this might be another "calm down" thing. If things weren't the way they are, we wouldn't even care about this, I think. But we're hypersensitive right now (for good reason).

Do I think they're stupid for cut and pasting someone's grammatically atrocious "guide?" Yes.

Do I think that macros are bad? No.

Do I think that ABUSE of macros is bad? Yes.

I don't see in there where they are promoting the abuse of macros (i.e. AFKing), only the use. Yes, the dance macro is horrid, but honestly..Look at this forum. Do people take our advice to go read the buffing data Tiaga so meticulously compiled and learn the hows and whys of buffing? Or do they just ask for a cut and paste macro and ignore suggestions that they actually educate themselves? I learned this lesson today, and wonder why I take the time to truly try to help people become better entertainers, sometimes.

There will always be people who just want to cut and paste a macro and go about their way. But as long as they are ATK, there's not much we can say or do. Honestly, though, this is where those of us who DO learn and who DO take the time and who DO care can set ourselves apart from the crowd. Someone wants to make a /flioursh2 macro, let them, as long as they stay ATK and use it instead of going AFK and abusing it. We can outperform /fliourish2 every time.




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Schardour
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:59 pm
#10






Doriana wrote:
I don't see in there where they are promoting the abuse of macros (i.e. AFKing), only the use.




The looping forage macro is enough toindicate thefactthat the looping macro is perfectly acceptable at this point in time. Looping macros don't require the player to touch the keyboard to continue the use of the command strings. I would say that its primary use is in the creation of AFK macros.




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Ranger5
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:00 pm
#11







NJ62 wrote:
From the illustrious guide...

/alias Dance /startdance rhythmic; /pause 5; /floiurish1; /pause 20; /fourish7; /pause 20; /flourish 4; /stopdance;

/alias Dance2 /startdance formal; /pause 5; /floiurish4; /pause 20; /fourish2; /pause 20; /flourish 6; /stopdance;


Class, what's wrong with this macro?





Its like the author didn't know how to spell "flourish"...and so they spelled it three different ways just to cover their bases....lol.







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Trobon18
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:39 pm
#12

I was fairly shocked my self to see this... I'm not sure I can talk you down... I might explode myself.
bawler14
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:57 pm
#13

Well considering how out-dated of a guide it is... and the typos... I think it well cause would be macroers endless frustration after they cut and paste bad code and can't figure out why it won't work. "It came from an official guide... why won't it work?"



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