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Thread: Buff help please

Kanbrea
Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:10 pm
#1

I just came back from a hiatus from SWG. When I played before, the /setperform was a much better buff than the group buff. Now I'm noticing most entertainers do only the group buffs. Has there been a change to how the buffs are done now?
DarkY0da
Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:47 pm
#2

Yes as of right now there is no difference in how long it takes doing /setp or grouping. Most people group as they NPCbots have trained them in that way. Most of them don't even know you can buff when not grouped.


On the grouping + side it does seem to cut down slightly on how often bugs pop up with buffing. Not much but a little bit.



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Warryyr
Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:48 pm
#3

Nope, same buff through either method.


One thing you will notice is that /setperform is buggy. Sometimes your buff recipient just won't get their buff. Doing the group buff nearly always works.

Kanbrea
Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:10 pm
#4

Thanks for the information, guess I'll start doing the group method then
Xyrdre
Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:21 pm
#5



Just for the record, and I don't know for sure why...


If the buff recipient follows my instructions to do nothing other than watch while I'm buffing (or chat a little, if they feel so inclined), I have yet to have a buff not take, whether grouped or /setperformed. Never miss - full amount, full duration. (Well, okay, unless they lied to me about there being a problem to spare my feelings, but I'm assuming that's not the case).


The few times that there was a problem with buffing, I asked the client what they were doing while I was buffing them. Every time, they said that they had donesomething - started listening to music, or ran some macro, or started to meditate... and after I had warned them not to do anything but /watch. At least they'vealwaysaccepted the responsibility for the failure and not blamed me, and were perfectly happy to let me reapply it for them.


I really do think that the "buggy" buffs are due largely to the patrons breaking them by doing something else while the buff is being applied. Assuming of course that the dancer knows what they're doing, and gets the requisite number of flos in. Yes, even if what breaks the buffing duration is something the client does, it's buggy. Yes, it sucks that we have no control over whether or not they do something to ruin it, yet we take the blame for 'not doing a good buff'. But I've personally never had one go bad if the client was told first not to do anything that might have a / command associated with it. Just lucky? Maybe. Maybe not.


At least to test this, try taking the extra moment to tell buff customers specifically not to do anything but hang out and get their buff. I just tell them that since pub 8 our buffing code has been really buggy, and it's worth the extra precaution to just do nothing and play it safe- after all, it's quicker than having to reapply it if it doesn't take, or getting stuck with a 25 minute buff. Try this, and report back whether or not you still have the buggy buffs happen.





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Ikewe
Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:26 pm
#6

I have actually started keeping a log of buffs that fail (okay I am sad and have no life...) I get just as many failures whether I use the group option or the setperform option - a 5% failure rate.


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kirah_ashlin
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:37 pm
#7

I agree, Ikewe (about the percentages not the no life thingy ). I have as many passive buffs not work as directed ones. Fortunately, they are few and far between - it seems as though we aren't quite as buggy as we were a few weeks ago.
DarkY0da
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:51 pm
#8

I rarely have dancer buff fail but far to often have a musician buff fail.



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Dizzey
Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:40 pm
#9

What exactly does /setperform do?


And people can get buffs just by watching a dancer? They don't need to be grouped?
DarkY0da
Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:44 pm
#10

Yes you can buff with out grouping.


To do so you have them watchor listen to you(depending on what it is your doing) then you target them and type /setp

You'll see a little msg and they will get a msg about you focusing your performance toward them.



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Devika
Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:32 pm
#11

This has been happening lately and now that it's been more then 5 people, I'm kinda curious what anyone else has seen or done in this situation.


I use /setperf since I don't autogroup (tryin to break the buffbot habit)

If the patron has a pistol equipped and the buff failed to stick, I have them unequip and the buff sets/becomes active.


What would cause that?


*I also have a macro setup to tell customers to type /stoplisten and /stopwatch, then wait for me to tell them when to /startwatch This has really helped in keeping the buffs from failing since the person forgets they're watching/listening to someone else.*





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customx
Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:34 am
#12

im a new master musician master dancer. how long do i have to have the people watch me when there in my group?
i am currently performing for 4 mintes and flourishing every 5 secs. i tried it out and a guy told me it only buffed for 19 minutes. so can anyone please tell me wuts wrong? and no dont worry its not for an afk buff bot lol



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Maisland
Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:19 am
#13


A full buff is 120 flourishes. My buffing macro has 5 flourishes, a pause 8 (if you flourish more often than 5 per 8 seconds, you get no extra benefit), this then repeats until I have done it for 200 seconds. I prefer to use /setperform instead of grouping to buff people myself unless I am buffing a large group.


P.S. How did you get to master without learning how to buff? I did all my experimenting way before I ever got to master myself.

Message Edited by Maisland on 12-13-2004 05:24 AM



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