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In another thread on the main board, Holocron said:

I've participated in discussions about:

• letting squad leaders heal it
  
• letting entertainers heal it in the field
  
• letting medics heal it, but take mind wounds
  
• letting someone heal it but slowly, so they have to stand next to the healee for a substantial amount of time (and need covered, etc)
  
• adding a new camp type that only heals mind pool

I'm sure there's even more ideas floating around.

Jump in and give him some encouragement. The idea that Squad Leaders should have ANY healing role is silly to me, and letting medics do it kind of usurps our position as the Mind Healers in the game. I think this might actually return some value and respect to the entertainment field, don't you?

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I must say I disagree with you Sinda *flinches as Ximma sees the Dancer community running at her with flaming torches*. I never thought, and still do not thingit makes much sense to have a petite Twi'lek shaking it on the battle. I mean, realistically, what is she going to accomplish? In a battle, people are too busy trying not to die to stop and give you a round of applause. As I stated in that thread, it makes more sense for the squad leader to get that ability with his/her group. In a battle a few inspiring words spoken at the right moment can lend courage and boost morale imo (which in effect should heal the mind, putting it at ease, at least for a while). But I think the squad leader needs to take mind damage to use this effect, and cannot heal his/her own damage.

Oh well, these are just my opinions. Sry i didnt stick up for you fellow dancers.

IMO it should be a medic or squad leader.. The medic can be like a shrink and help them get over their current problems, or the squad leader could rally the troops to battle, despite the horrors they have seen/done.

All I'm after is something that gives us a more valued, respected part to play beside being Eye Candy.

I understand your objections, and I would be just as happy if we got better mind buffs back in the cantinas. But times are desperate. I want something that will shore up the dam before all the best Masters leave the profession.

I thought of something for squad leaders right after hitting submit. In their case it should be a "boost of courage".

If entertainers do it, hmm.. I'm torn on that one to be honest. I suppose there could bea way... But I'm not sure what it is.

I personally would say letting us heal BF in camps....buuut then every single bounty hunter (as anexample) who picked up novice entertainer would be shakin it around the campfire and never ever ever ever ever in a million bazillion years come to a cantina. So that idea is scrapped. And besides, we are about healing the wounds in mind, not the damage. And those wounds are not exactly healed fast. So now we would have the ability to heal damage if this happened. But how fast? It would all be getting out of hand i think. We would be healing damage, wounds, and granting a mind buff all at the same time. Pretty wild. I think the idea of a 'shrink' in the field iseven more perposterous as a dancer (dont worry, they dont really hate you tommy (a bomb explodes nearby) if you give them a chance I am sure they would be willing to put those rocket launchers away and talk with you). (or a musician, i can see it now already... they are setting up the band in the middle of the battle field). So what could we do then to get more involved outside the cantina you ask? Well, let me think about it for a while *gets up from computer and thinks about it for a while*. Imyself would like the idea of a hybid/ elite elite class that would be all about acrobatics, finesse, and small quick attacks. Kinda a cross between tka and a fencer. This could also incorporate our special effects into status changingspecials (blind, dizzy, stunned).*shrug* just an idea. What else could we do.... hmmm. we cant really try and take the place of d&d type bards (unless we could enthrall pets at master level or something, taking them out of the fight for a while), since that is the squad leader niche in the world. *shrug* i guess i am at a loss. Maybe i will think up something later tonight.

I am in the field sometimes with members of my PA and my Combat Medic husband. At their insistence I have learned pistols to protect myself during these troubled times. It is absurd that when we are far afield as we were this past weekend on both Datooine and Yavin IV that we must travel all the way back to those weensy cantinas just to heal their minds when I was perfectly capable of doing that at our encampments.

The idea that a squad leader can heal minds is ridiculous. Why make him give up skills for something at which I excell and am more than willing to do!!

LuLa Luvlee Y'Da, Master Dancer

Social Director GASP

Eclipse/Talus/Dearic

Why not let Masterdancers only be able to heal BF in camps at a slower rate?

I worry that making entertainers a must have of any combat party is a bad idea. Not all classes are meant to go into combat. All the artisans fit this category. Why can't entertainer?

See, I worry that giving something must have to an entertainer would make us even less needed. How can that be? Well, the powerplayers will fill out their ranks with what they need, and if entertainers fits that, they will make sure they have an entertainer around. That means every big group will have their own entertainer to watch, and I find when people have their own entertainer and want to go heal, they will watch their own entertainer instead of the band at the cantina.

So now you're left with many entertainers not bothering to stick around the cantina, and the few that do only entertaining people not part of a large PA.

Kimma's right that no one can stop and give a dancer a round of applause while trying not to die. And that a petite Twi'lek wouldn't be on the battlefield.

But... I don't think that the subject is healing "On the field" like a medic/combat medic can. Entertainers are the Mind pool and BF healers. Doctors are the Stamina and health healers. Doctors heal the wounds for their two sections. Entertainers heal the wounds for the mind when in a cantina. So why not in the field as well? It IS our territoiry (the mind, not the field.) If the idea is that a mind wound is Battle Shock/ (Real world similar to post traumatic stress syndrome and the sort) and only the entertainers can heal it then WHY would a normal doctor or squad leader be able to heal it?

But... Why would a dancer or musician be on the field? Well, why would a doctor be on the field? Tenchinally they are in the same boat as an entertainer. If they do not have ANY combat skills, then what good are they?

Now. Healing ON the field, while the group is attacking a kryat dragon or a bunch of baddies? Probably not. But IN the field is a totally different story. Being able to heal battle fatigue in a hotel, theater or cantina corks, correct? As well as mind wounds. So I believe that the whole thing is if entertainers could heal these things IN A CAMP. As opposed to while in battle. When our troops are at war, when they go back to CAMP, often times there are things to entertainment (comedians, etc) Heck, the US armey even has officers that are soley there as a band. Who else goes through bootcamp to play a tuba? But these guys don't go out into action and blast away on their Tuba... after the battle is when they come into play, at CAMP which is where the soldiers would be. Or, if the soldiers happen to be in a town (IF IF IF) they go to a bar, or night club or some place to just relax while on leave.

So, yes, healing Mind wounds ON the field in the middle of a fight is sort of silly because they are a sitting duck(then again so is a medic prodding entertainers or ANYONE while that person is in the middle of fighting or dancing. Musicians at least stand mostly still >.> ) But in a camp is not a great big jump at all is it?

I know that lower level camps you can be attacked in, but I hear that the higher level camps are sort of 'free zones' but I may be wrong. But if it's true, then it seems aperfect place for a entertainer to help out some combatants and keep them from having to trek all the way back to town. Besides, what's a squad leader or doctor going to do to help the shock that only entertainers can heal? Tell some bad Laffy Taffy jokes? ::grins::

Tekoa- Nearly Master Dancer Ahazi

Ever hear of battlefield musicians playing while the army was marching into battle? It sounds good to me. I wouldn't mind a little starwars1 while my bountyhunter is about to charge some rebels.

My post seemed to be missing half of my sentances o.o I type faster than I think. sorry, but the jist is there.

While talking to my strategy old war loving BF I found that there is a valid reason for the 'squad leader' to have the ability to heal mind wounds- based on squad leaders in an army being the ones who boost moral. however, I do not think that they should be able to heal Mind wounds in the same way that a dancer could, or like a medic heals mind and stamina wounds.

Perhaps allow them to be able to do it a little but never the same as an entertainer could (muscician and dnacer) Then again, a squad leader is fighting so do they honestly have the time to keep track of where everyone is and then click on the person while they are moving around and the person is moving and then heal them?

I understand the concept is valid, but it doesn't seem plausible unless their only job is to sit there trying to heal mind wounds.

Maybe use the same idea as a "flag bearer" keeps up moral, or a drummer/ flute player in the armies. Give the entertainer a command that is a 'moral booster' in battle to boost the mind of everyone in the group just a little to keep them from being incapped by mind wounds.

Who knows, but I don't think it should be taken out of the hands of the entertainers in any drastic way. That's the point of the entertainers.

Fact is , I am feeling myself rather useless as a Masterdancer participating in the SWG community in the momentary status of the game.

Even in cantinas i often have the feeling the lower dancer do not like the presence of masterdancers, cause they attract all the attention from.

So I for my part would like to see any kind of skill, that would allow us to participate more and give us a possibility, that the many other players see our profession no moreas cheaply.

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Aniella (Gorath) Dancer