Dancer Archive

If you want to get people into the cantinas....make dancing and musician a profession that cost NO skill points. Then we can also have a fighting profession if we want and fighters can get into the swing of things too. Wouldn't it be fun to see the cantinas alive with everyone dancing and having fun while providing the dancer with an option to be able to make a decent income at another profession if they want.

I think that would be soooo much fun. Everyone dancing with each other and trying to outdo each other. Putting on their dancing duds and coming to the cantina to socialize and dance.

I've always thought going to zero SP or being part of a non-combat skill point pool would be fine for all the Ent profs.

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glory wrote:

Wouldn't it be fun to see the cantinas alive with everyone dancing and having fun

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Schardour wrote:

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glory wrote:

Wouldn't it be fun to see the cantinas alive with everyone dancing and having fun

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Yep

I'd actually love to see something like that happen. However, a large portion of our community feels that there must be some tangible reward for profession mastery, and tangible rewards are rarely free in an MMO...

Maybe someday they'll come around

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Aynianu wrote:

i think entertainers should bespecial and more rewarding (ThisI can agree with)to be worthy of the SP, rather than making them a free proffession (which would then get much less attention from dev's) (This I cannot. Look carefully at the relationship with pilots.)

Basicly what im saying is without sacrifice, the entertainer proffession is just nothing special. (I would argue otherwise. Without sacrifice, without distinct advantages, and without overwhelming economic impact, the entertainer professions would become even more special and unique. It would allow for the seamless integration of social gameplay into an action-basedMMO. It could provide something that no other profession can provide, but not require significant resources and/or investments. The only boundaries are those established by our own minds!)

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as the corr that was there when poli 0sp happened, and considering how much I like dancer, I do not wish 0sp upon the profession. 0sp should be used as a last resort, and I would much rather entertainers (and back then, politician) get more attention instead.

Message Edited by PoetDancer on 08-30-2005 10:43 PM

Id love this to happen after 2 years and having done dancer about 5 timesd im tempted to drop again.

I enjoy dancing but with groups made up of entirely ents in cantinas now you dont get the flow through of regular people meaning im often just sitting ther occaisionally chatting to the same person for the 100th time. I dont care about the new buffs they add nothing for me i dont pay my money to be a buffer for other people.

I have a combat toon in the form of my jedi, i have a crafter in the form of my alt account but my dancer smuggler whilst fun at times often feels wasted. If only theyd just give us combat levels at master it would make mastering worthwhile and wed be able to stand with the front line fighters.

The link to politicians and 0 sp hmm well personally i always found pre CU having politician wasnt a pain at full sp because you could mix and match effectivly witha combat profession still go get buffed and armoured and be as good as anyone else. If it was in the pre cu system i wouldnt care about dancer costing sp but in the new CU world of levels they need to remove sp cost or grant combat levels.

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PoetDancer wrote:

The great thing about making Dancer a zero SP profession, is that it will allow all the players who never saw the point of what we do, earn fancy emotes by leaving their computer on, while they sleep.

Seriously. If they wanted to do it, they'd do it.

But on a more personal note,

I have no items to speak of.

I have no jedi.

I have a pittance of credits.

I haven't seen any of the places everyone raves about, like the inside of the Death Watch Bunker.

The only dignity I have in this game is that I can do those dances, and they cannot.

And I am sorry, Til, but I did not pay over $400 US dollars, and climb the ladder to mastery all ATK for eleven months, just because the very same people who made my game a living hell for two years, believe it would be nice if their level 80 uberstacker named 'DeathOwnerz' could do Poplock after he DBed a Jedi on the loadscreen in Coronet, while wearing hawtpantz.

I don't mean to be so harsh, Til.

Maybe my mind is not open to the possibility, and I am an idiot not worthy.

But yes...it matters that much to me.

Message Edited by PoetDancer on 08-30-2005 10:43 PM

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Firstly I doubt very much that everyone would be dancer just because they had the skill points to. Just like not everyone is Jedi even though you get a while new character slot when you become one. That means, you get 250 extra skill points for being Jedi.

Secondly, even if dancer would cost no skill points, entertainer would. To become dancer you'd have to 43 skill points within entertainer.

Thirdly, that it was hard for you to become dancer is hardly an argument to let it be impossible for someone else to become a dancer.

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glory wrote:
If you want to get people into the cantinas....make dancing and musician a profession that cost NO skill points. Then we can also have a fighting profession if we want and fighters can get into the swing of things too. Wouldn't it be fun to see the cantinas alive with everyone dancing and having fun while providing the dancer with an option to be able to make a decent income at another profession if they want.

I think that would be soooo much fun. Everyone dancing with each other and trying to outdo each other. Putting on their dancing duds and coming to the cantina to socialize and dance.

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I can absolutely see your point. It would be nice to see that cantinas full again. Since BF was removed, that wont happen ever again. However, making it 0 Skill Point costs opens the doors to people running around in cantinas in their underwear, spamming god knows what. Honestly, that is what caused some people to leave them anyway.

I will state this: If the devs remove Skill Point Cost for Entertainers, I will immediately cancel all three accts I have. And completely support anyone else who does so.

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Aynianu wrote:

Ive allways been against this idea.

I can see the points for it, however i think entertainers should bespecial and more rewarding to be worthy of the SP, rather than making them a free proffession (which would then get much less attention from dev's)

Ive just come back from a long break, i love the new dances and props, but i pray that wasnt our revamp.

Basicly what im saying is without sacrifice, the entertainer proffession is just nothing special.

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SO is it "special" to dance in an empty cantina with nothing but other AFK entertainers? OR would it be "special" to have a loaded cantina with a bunch of players just having fun again practicing their new skills with dance partners....and socializing like we used to?

Also wanted to add....wouldn't it be fun to see a bunch of hardcore fighters set up their musical instruments and "jam" together int he cantinas. Wouldn't it be fun to dance with your favorite player as an evening out. The nondancers have seen all we have to offer over and over so it is boring now. But to participate and join in...would bring life back to the socialization of the game. AND those of you who threaten to quit if this went live...oh well join the others who quit of CU..but then again, sometimes you have to sacrifice a few for obtaining the best for the rest.

Message Edited by glory on 08-31-2005 07:15 AM

I am so torn on this debate. Sometimes I wish for dancer to be free of skill points since I am a combatant also, sometimes I feel that it is the last thing I want.

One thing I am sure of is that if they did remove the SP requirement, not everyone would suddenly pick up master musician or dancer. How many master politicians do you know? Is everyone you know a master pilot?

I would prefer to be given something worth those skill points in all honesty, but coming from a server where Coronet, Theed and Eisley are empty (not even a single afker) I long for the social interaction of the old times.