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Thread: How about an Old Fashioned Online Sit-In

Oldan
Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:54 pm
#1

Why don't we stage online sit-ins on each server until a resolution time frame is posted in the announcements? To make sure we don't get into trouble, we should protest the Empire's crack down on CHs instead of SOE's bug.


You are probably asking, what good will that do? I say if we cause enough lag for a major city starport, we would get more than CHs complaining about it. Yes, or complaining about us, but it would raise more of a stink than just us complaining in the forums.


I only get to play a hour or two a night so I don't know when the best time and place to protest would be.


Someone post a location and a time each server.


I'm on Naritus and I can be online any time after 8pm Eastern.


Hey, maybe someone can post a macro to AFK protest with?


Am i serious or is this a joke? It all depends on the number of people who want to do this.


Oldan

MCH/BE


a1rodger
Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:05 pm
#2

This is a bad idea, other people have tried this in protest and had thier account suspended for 1 week. Tiggs has writen something about this but I forget where maybe some one could help us out.



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SakeO
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:29 pm
#3


The bug truly sucks but "lag-ins" are not the answer. I don't want see servers get all screwy every time some group gets it's feathers ruffled.


In my house, tantrumming children go to time-out. I wholly support suspending or banning all players inciting or participating in these kinds of actions.



SakeO


Message Edited by SakeO on 06-30-2005 02:29 AM

Aerontako_Shretalon
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:36 pm
#4

Already tried this, though my largest pets joined the sit-in, and we did it at the Dantoine Mining Post. I was riding my Bol Packrunner with my full grown Fambaa and Torton... Can you do allot of yelling in a sit-in? No publicity is bad publicity, at least that's what I told the people threatening to report me.
Lion1596
Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:32 am
#5

lmao @Aerontako. I protested with you on my bol pack runner also... I gotta say, protesting with our lvl 1 pets didn't help much :/. I don't even know if my 24 bug reports even helped...
Redheadedminx
Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:36 am
#6






SakeO wrote:


The bug truly sucks but "lag-ins" are not the answer. I don't want see servers get all screwy every time some group gets it's feathers ruffled.


In my house, tantrumming children go to time-out. I wholly support suspending or banning all players inciting or participating in these kinds of actions.


SakeO



Message Edited by SakeO on 06-30-2005 02:29 AM




So I should shut up and pay money for a game I cannot play then? So we MCH and CH should just be quiet and sit on the naughty step and not say anything, even though they have completely nerfed my profession. I'm a MCH and MCM so don't have a combat level I can fall back on. I'm unable to play solo, so that's me buggered.


This is not getting my feathers ruffled. This is a major problem with no word from the devs when this will be fixed. It's not a nice feeling.





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ImpCaptainNelin
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:39 am
#7






Redheadedminx wrote:





SakeO wrote:


The bug truly sucks but "lag-ins" are not the answer. I don't want see servers get all screwy every time some group gets it's feathers ruffled.


In my house, tantrumming children go to time-out. I wholly support suspending or banning all players inciting or participating in these kinds of actions.


SakeO



Message Edited by SakeO on 06-30-2005 02:29 AM




So I should shut up and pay money for a game I cannot play then? So we MCH and CH should just be quiet and sit on the naughty step and not say anything, even though they have completely nerfed my profession. I'm a MCH and MCM so don't have a combat level I can fall back on. I'm unable to play solo, so that's me buggered.


This is not getting my feathers ruffled. This is a major problem with no word from the devs when this will be fixed. It's not a nice feeling.






Well anyone who 1 account has this same problem and the thing is that getting the other proffesions to dislike, us will not help us and these players we would give lag to dont have any control over the situation so why punish them?




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iprice
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:45 am
#8


a1rodger wrote:
This is a bad idea, other people have tried this in protest and had thier account suspended for 1 week. Tiggs has writen something about this but I forget where maybe some one could help us out.




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If you're out to lag people, they're going to slap this on...

Iain
Chemo60
Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:00 am
#9


Might as well drop any idea like this because as a group, us players cannot even get together to have a 'Pi*s-up in a brewery', let alone come up with some form of action and collectively follow it through.


SoE know that!!


So all this hot air we blow is not going to affect them one bit.


Wake up, smell the roses and bend over.




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Plus a few other professions on other servers.

SWG had such a bright future until SOE got their hands on it!!
Laaba
Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:24 am
#10

I made a post yesterday that NO one as responded to ... that would have much more of a effect than this type of action.



Contact LUCAS ARTS directy an report the problem.



This way u are going above SOE head... they cannot do a thing about it ... an doing so brings the problems to people that really care.... after all this is Lucas Arts game NOT SOE. SOE just develops it for them.







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Warryyr
Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:43 am
#11


Folks, a Dev personally came in here and apologized for the mistake. He also indicated they'd thought a fix would have resolved it, but it didn't.


This tells us:


1. They're aware of the issue.

2. They're aware of how much this upsets us.

3. They are trying to get a fix working for it.

4. They very well may not have a good grasp of what the issue is, if a previous fix attempt didn't solve it (don't even get me started on TESTING code fixes...I'm an IT professional...I'm well aware of how frightening it is that they throw fixes in without testing them to make sure they do what they're supposed to)

5. They will get this fix into Live as soon as possible to resolve this.


Now, as far as a protest goes, OUR game is fubar'd. I do NOT think the best way to get others to support us is to negatively affectTHEIR game, too. It will just make people pissed, and it'll get you called all sorts of unpleasant names by those folks running on 128MB of RAM with an old video card.


A protest won't make the Devs figure out a fix faster. It will just upset people who get impacted by the lag. And you WILL get banned for purposefully trying to lag other people's games. That's why they made the policy that they did - so if a CSR asks you to knock it off, and you say no, they can take action against you.


The forums are the place to gripe, not in-game. When people are in-game, they're trying to have fun. Some of our fun got hosed by this stupid bug. Don't take some of the fun out of other people's game.

SakeO
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:16 am
#12






Redheadedminx wrote:


So I should shut up and pay money for a game I cannot play then? So we MCH and CH should just be quiet and sit on the naughty step and not say anything, even though they have completely nerfed my profession. I'm a MCH and MCM so don't have a combat level I can fall back on. I'm unable to play solo, so that's me buggered.


This is not getting my feathers ruffled. This is a major problem with no word from the devs when this will be fixed. It's not a nice feeling.







I have seen these occur and on WoW. Even though i have generally agreed with the issues and supported the changes that were being protested for, all they did was impact the players wanting to use those areas of those servers. I had a night ruined by the wookiee protest here when friends of mine could not navigate through Theed due to lag and effectively had my server in accessable or unusable for a night on WoW when warriors decided to act up.


Email campaigns, bug reports, CSR calls are how it is done. In this case the call to protest was for an issue that was not even a day old. It was a known problem and they probably should have fixed it first but , I would rather they are given time to address it rather than manage a server meltdown by a bunch of whiners. When "lag-ins" become the way to bring about fixes, then we have to deal with more of them for smaller and smaller issues.



SakeO


Indene
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:37 am
#13






SakeO wrote:


(snip)


Email campaigns, bug reports, CSR calls are how it is done. In this case the call to protest was for an issue that was not even a day old. It was a known problem and they probably should have fixed it first but , I would rather they are given time to address it rather than manage a server meltdown by a bunch of whiners. When "lag-ins" become the way to bring about fixes, then we have to deal with more of them for smaller and smaller issues.



SakeO







Actually I believe the issue was at least 10 days old as it was reported on TC the very first day.


-Indene-






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