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Message Edited by Direpath on 03-16-2004 08:03 AM

I have to totally disagree here. I love what they've done with the profession. I've been a MCH for a LOONG time. When I first started a Novice CH and I mean just novice no other skill boxes at all, could call a Rancor. The novice couldn't tame a Rancor but all the novice had to do was pay for one and he could call and use it. Tell me that sounds right to you?

As a master ch doesn't it make you mad when a dabbler can be almost as powerful as you? It drove me crazy, now they've made it where being a dabbler won't get you very much, which makes MCH a lot better in my opinion.

As far as not very many of us, what server are you on? I don't have any hard numbers, but I would be willing to bet that more people have Novice CH than any other elite profession.

I agree. I did CH just recently. I didn't find the grind to be too bad. I also respected the fact that I had to commit a significant number of points to call any powerful tanks. I ended up dropping it though, to keep ranger...more money in meat...heehee

SOE has always had it that players are better than pets. Look at Everquest: elementals and skeletons are little more than DOTs that the enemy can kill. Warrior types are needed as tanks.

Personally, I'm not sure about that. On the one hand, a CH should not be so powerful as to call out any creature(s) that give him a clear advantage over a Brawler/Marksman varient with similar point allotment. Which means a master CH should be able to call a Rancor that is about on par with a master TKA. Too much more and MCH is overkill. Too much less and MCH is useless.

As much as I'd like to be able to call out a rancor that could literally eat through the opposition, we need to remember that as far as BALANCE is concerned, pets are weapons. If our weapons don't line up with the other professions, there is a problem.

ROFL,
You guys really by that rebalance load of horse apples don't you. Let's take a quick trip down history lane ok.

In the beginning, SOE DEVs created CH as an ELITE profession. Cool they thought. They gave players 250 Skill points to create a unique template for each player. Oh Way Cool they said.

On Day 2 Dabblers started using CH as a way to boost themselves and exploit the game. The Devs said oh not so cool. The reason being is simple, they never tested all the combinations of charaters (and there are tons) that could be made to make an uber Avatar.

On Day 3 they "rebalanced" the skill tree to try and eliminate dabblers. Creature Handlers in general say thank you.

On Day 4 The Dev in his magnificent stupidity said, CH is way to powerful we must nerf their pets so that they are little more than toys for melee types to kick around. This will humble the CH's so that they will no longer be looked to as an asset in a group who is going hunting. And so it is.

Of all the Elite Combat professions (which contrary to whatever anyone says, is what CH was intended to be in the manual, in advertising etc) we are the only ones who have been nerfed into insensiblility. I started working on CH in July, I became MCH in August sometime, I hung on and I have hung on and I have hung on, because I just can't see myself playing this game alone without my pets. TKA, Rifleman, Master Doc, Combat Medic have all be "rebalanced" and they are all bloody powerful, they all laugh at us, they all think CH is a crock. Even here even on this thread, people admit that SOE has always wanted Melee to be the tank. WHY?

Small question, outside of jedi's in the movies, what do you see? Do you see pikemen? NO, Do you see Swordsmen? NO Do you see TKM? NO Do you see Combat Medics? NO You see storm troopers, you see rebels, tusken raiders, jawas, fuzzie wuzzies on Endor (primitive society) gungans, blah blah blah blah. ANY AND ALL ADVANCED SPECIES, do they use clubs, swords, knives, barehands? NO! They use blasters, beam rifles and energy pistols and the list goes on, even the JEDI use LIGHT sabers. Earth History, Year 1939, place Poland, Germany invades poland using Tanks, Machine guns, Stukas, artillery. Polish cavalry rides to the attack, result in less than 2 weeks Poland is gone. IN SWG AT-ST comes along, rifleman whips out his blaster rifle, bang bang dead AT. In movie they beat AT-ST's by cunning, cheating, etc. in this game a swordsman, (good grief a beam rifle) can take out an AT-ST. I DON"T THINK SO.

OUTSIDE OF JEDI, STORMTROOPERS, and Rebs, the only other combat type profession you see is, you got it CH. Yet, Jedi is borked, stormtroopers are a joke and CH has been nerfed back into the stone age. This isn't StarWars this is Everquest with a new skin.
At least IMHO.

You also see less than a thousandth of the galaxy in the movies. Try the books some time; most carry blasters but melee combat isn't dead by far. Ever heard of Noghri? Wookiees? Even Twi'leks had a warrior class that valued the vibroblade.

Riiiiight. Which is why there are more parallels to the books than movies. Or did you think that Dathomir popped out of thin air? And most of the species you see in the game. I thought the book/movie debate had died out.

As for false advertising, you must be new to the gaming industry.

In any case, it follows logic that in an entire galaxy, the few planets of the movies is a very small sampling.

Ryger,

Guess what, Chief DEV is from EQ!!!

NO WONDER THIS GAME SUCKS!!

They have now freaking idea how to balance a universe where melee characters don't rule cause they and their puny little brains are still stuck in EQ! I get so tired of the BS that is thrown around. When I think Star Wars, I don't think of the stinking books and I bet you dollars to donuts most of the people here don't either.

Personally i don't give a rat's ass where they pull the planets from but I do care that I am playing a game that is supposed to be set in the 25th century somewhere and that the strongest characters are not blaster burners like Han Solo or Light saber wielding Jedi, but some little freak of nature called a TKM that was never heard of anywhere and that he can kick the living crap out of anything in the game. That my friend harks back to E freaking Q and I HATED EQ cause it's the most freaking Dorkiest Freaking game on the Freaking planet. AND THE HEAD FREAKING DEV IS FROM EQ.

GOD we are in trouble.

Ryger,

Guess what, Chief DEV is from EQ!!!

NO WONDER THIS GAME SUCKS!!

They have know freaking idea how to balance a universe where melee characters don't rule cause they and their puny little brains are still stuck in EQ! I get so tired of the BS that is thrown around. When I think Star Wars, I don't think of the stinking books and I bet you dollars to donuts most of the people here don't either.

Personally i don't give a rat's ass where they pull the planets from but I do care that I am playing a game that is supposed to be set in the 25th century somewhere and that the strongest characters are not blaster burners like Han Solo or Light saber wielding Jedi, but some little freak of nature called a TKM that was never heard of anywhere and that he can kick the living crap out of anything in the game. That my friend harks back to E freaking Q and I HATED EQ cause it's the most freaking Dorkiest Freaking game on the Freaking planet. AND THE HEAD FREAKING DEV IS FROM EQ.

GOD we are in trouble.