Creature Handler Archive
Thread: State of the Creature Handler Profession: October 2005
I like your post but some conclusions are faulty.
1. CHs can pvp effectively now I have done it and it works its just knowing whats important for pvp and how you want to pvp with a pet. From my experience self sacrafice is a very definite plus. It acts as a armor buff for you the ch and if you have healing makes it exceeding hard to put you down. You need to tinker a bit to find out how you want to pvp. We are able to swing both through group support or one on one trust me on this. MCHs are takeing down high level jedi need I say more.
2. Bio engineered pets are supposed to be better then wilds. The new system promotes getting wilds to learn abilities. Also though some wilds have secret abilities as I have begun to call them. The bloodseeker mite queen does a area attack that stuns blinds and dizzys with one swing. Stoneskins and giant pharples do area attacks. As time goes on I am sure people will discover more little cuties in the wild. In effect wilds are worth more now then they ever were before. Also from what I understand BE pets get 8 special slots wilds can have up to 12. If that is the case wilds have a role. Especially if you want to stack alot of states on an enemy. Player crafted items are always supposed to be supperior if BE pets werent supperior BEs would no longer be able to sell pets. I have a bloodseeker mite queen a sheer mite soldier and young reptilian flier that aint going anywhere.
3. The high xp is an old argument. Long before ch got this. Some people will always feal its too high many will feal its too low. I feal its fine at its level. You will either thrive or fail but its no fault of the system. You can max out a level 70 in a few days good grinding. If its too easy people feal no accomplishment and its doomed to be diminished like the jedi or MBH. If its too high people lose interest. The fact that it can be done in a little over a weekend is sign that its okay. You do not have to focus on grinding either you can take your time and have fun with your pet and it will level in due coarse.
4. Tameing is much like looting some creatures have a higher instance of specials then others and it can be tedious. Make a point of knowing other dedicated chs on your server that way you can trade up inate ability pets. Aslong as the pet has not been fought you can trade it to someone else and they can learn that ability. Saves alot of time and hair pulling.
5.The pet xp system is a generator in that everytime you fight the pet be it against a lvl 1 or a lvl 82 the system does a roll to see if you win the ability. Everytime you roll a pet though the likelihood or rolling it right increases. Example.
No rolls you have a 1 percent chance of learning the ability. 1 roll you get a 10 percent chance. 2 roll you get a 20 percent chance. 3 rolls you get 30 percent chance. Until eventually you cannot help but roll 100 percent. The fact that killing yard trash works is because you are killing hundreds of things each time with a 1 percent chance. Eventually you get lucky. Though there is the chance you could go for 12 or more hours without scoreing.
I have scored an ability on the first kill with a pet and others it took 600 kills. Its a dice roll generator. You can win by stacking the deck by rolling the pet or by continually haveing at a small chance of success. Both systems work. This is the old smuggler sliceing generator from my guess. Learning the abiltiy seems to be akin to a smuggler sliceing for 35 and not getting it on 300 slices. You want a good example get a pair of dice and precede to roll the number 2 and number 12 are the rarest. This is why vegas works my friends.
Dodece
Bio petsmay not have that extra 3 slots but their better engineered stats more then make up for that. I am going to try to play around with my stoneskin hanadek and also soldier sheer mite as they have very nice abilities and features.
I am a MBH/MCH and the new specials really help fill in the gaps of my template. True, before the 03 nerf our pets were awesome tanks. I could put my greater sludge panthers up against the whole fort tuskin(which also got nerfed in the cu) and could walk out fine. LOL now i can walk in w/o a pet and be fine, they are al CL27 and lower. But that's not my point, my point is the specials you can learn like intimidate is something i do not have in my arsenal w/o the pets. I find because of the grind though that i tend to let my cl70's sit and use 3 cl23s all the time. The dps is greater with 3 lower than with one max lvl. A rancor or kimo should always be able to kill 3 lvl 23's. Cmon, you can't even solo a kimo lvl 80 even being a lvl 80 yourself because they are considered gold level boss marks.
The specials did help, and it put wild creatures back in the game. I don't know what BE's are like on other servers though, but the BE i use on kettemoor can make giant pets at cl70. This kinda still makes the tamed pets look weak. If you lvl up a tamed pet it should keep growing with experience gained. I have a BE humbaba that is as big as an ATAT, kinda sillly but it leaves everyone in awe.
I haven't hunted jedi with pets though yet, i need to augment more specials. I mainly just hunt boss level npcs for the loot drops. CH really helps here. 3 bio'd kwi lvl 23's with fantasic regen work great, but w/o those tamed specials they are still lacking. An I still own the first greater sludge panther i ever tamed. At one time it was a lvl 35, now after many nerfs it is a lvl 23
, but still my baby.
Enigma as always it is an enjoyable read and honestly written.
I may disagree with some of it and agree with much of it but now is not the time to agrue about playstyles and opinions since we each have our own way of playing and our own opinions.
Well thought out, well written and probably needed on a quarterly basis here lol
Thank you.
It's worth noting vitality loss is still in PvP, lost vital on two out of 3 pets yesterday.
Seems any pets that are incapped when you're deathblowed will lose vitality, this was the same pre-CU.
/bump
Good original post an Good follow up posts ![]()
Its because I hate this grind so much that now since I am done with it [I think have ??? on some "unknown" abilities] I am willing to help any MCH on Corbantis. As stated in another post I will train any of your pets for FREE if you don't have the ability yourself.
the grind should be less for sure and pets do loose vit in pvp. Good job enigma
Roguestar