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Thread: Saw this in the Jedi boards and had to agree from a CH pov.
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Joker9125
Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:56 pm
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This was written by a whiney Jedi
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LS psgs /anti decay kits
up to 5 Bhs at once can attack a jedi and no one can heal the jedi or attack the BHs
/duel bug still in effect
oh yes i forgot to add...
Bhs can NOW master in a day!(well maybe not master , but sure as he11 get 3/x/x/x (lvl 3 can be grinded in 15 minutes now))
im beginning to think with all the Jedi "nerfing"
that jedi will be more powerful in the c/u and all these freakin "nerfs" will be our reasons to say "hey , STHU " look waht you had vs us especially for all this time, like what 8 months now?
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This was written by me.
All I can say is...............yup I agree. When everyone else is nerfed to the point that a player pet could actully have a chance of killing them in PvPand the Nerf Cries start sounding Im gonna say the exact same thing (hey , STHU " look waht you had vs us especially for all this time, like what14 months now?).
Message Edited by Joker9125 on 02-26-2005 03:09 PM
Anobaca
Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:43 am
#2
Sorry I do not feel sorry for the JEDI. Everyone can one star me and flame me but I will always feel alot of the problems we have now are thanks to holo grinding. PvP is a joke because of defense stakeing then they moved to JEDI. It is nothing but people looking for GOD mode in this game. I never wanted to play JEDI and I think I am the only one that missed the you can be a JEDI on the box when I got the game. I got KOTR to play as a JEDI. When everything is said and done the devs will make JEDI uber again and CH will still be weak and blamed for most things. As long as JEDI are in game I do not see why we can not have a merk king and queen. I do not see why a frienzed grual, bull rancor and merk death's head have to be so rare.
My 2 cents
I just want to tame a frienzed grual baby
Message Edited by Anobaca on 02-26-2005 01:45 PM
nighter
Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:59 am
#3
Anobaca wrote:
Sorry I do not feel sorry for the JEDI. Everyone can one star me abd flame me but I will always feel alot of the problems we have now are thanks to holo grinding. PvP is a joke because of defense stakeing then they moved to JEDI. It is nothing but people looking for GOD mode in thsi game. I never wanted to play JEDI and I think I am the only one that missed the you can be a JEDI on the box when I got the game. I got KOTR to play as a JEDI. When everything is said and done the devs will make JEDI uber again and CH will still be weak and blamed for most things. As long as JEDI are in game I do not see why we can not have a merk king and queen. I do not see why a frienzed grual, bull rancor and merk death's head have to be so rare.
My 2 cents
I just want to tame a frienzed grual baby
I agree with ya Anobaca, Sorry to say but the whole jedi/bh thing is sort of a plague to this game for people who never wanted to be jedi and feel a little left out because most people seem to suround themselves with being a jedi or I must have jedi. This concept that the only reason to play this game is to become a jedi so I can have an ego fix is very sad, I never wanted to be a jedi and I feel that the prof has been given too much time and thought into while profs like CH etc are given a backlash and faded to make more room for jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi. I'm not dogging the jedi prof in a sense I just find it sad when that's what this game has been reduced to for alot of people.
Jedi have a rough time grinding there prof and now bh's can hunt them more, but that's the world of being a jedi so I don't feel bad for them, I don't know alot of jedi that feel bad thatour prof has lots of probs as all profs do. If your a jedi that's cool, it's your thing, that's cool, but it's also Bh's jobs to make your lives misrable, that's a big focus of bh, so take it with a grain of salt like the rest of us do with our profs and push on hehe
Nighter' Tradestar
Creature handler/Pikeman
HC
Message Edited by nighter on 02-26-2005 05:02 AM
velm
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:17 am
#4
I don't think they all want 'GOD-mode.' I know there are quite a few decent people out there that are Jedi for the actual Role Playing experiece. I think it should be done in a different way, however. Maybe allow only so many on a server. As it stands now, I can see groups of them in some of the starports, and it should not be that way.
I became a CH after all the great nerfs, so i do not know of the 'power' there was to be had in this great prof back then, but I have read about those days of glory and yore. I have no idea why anyone would want to PVP with CH. With buffs, armor, food, super weapons, the pets would be laying on the ground bleeding in no time. Yes, I would like to get ahold of MORE pets, why can't I get the Merek King or queen? Would it really be that unbalancing? really stop and think about it, you can get a marksman with rifles 2, and get a laser rifle and do 2k dam with Medium AP. Wouldmore pets really hurt? NO. If you look through all the pets, you notice howthe ones with babies are those with the lowestHAM vs kinetic, just about. I would have to say, the vast majority of us like CH not because of how powerful the pets are, but for how they look and the challenge it can be to get them.
I would LOVE to be able to tame everything under 70, know it will not happen, but it would be nice.Since I came after all the great 'nerfs' and this is all I know, it does not really bother me, I still have fun. How many people can go Sharnaff hunting unbuffed unarmored and just them, well, them, and a pet?
EsclavoTKM
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:02 am
#5
I honestly don't care about the Jedi. There are far too many and any way that SoE could come up with to "cull" the population is great for me and the game in general. I agree that Jedi should be powerful, but I just don't think there should be as many as there are and I also believe they should be "punished" for high visibility. I'd also love it if they brought out the permadeath again. If you watch the movies, Jedi didn't go out of their ways to be seen by the general public and if they did, it was only when absolutely necessary. They were "protectors of the peace, not soldiers". I have met very few that have that way of thinking, although I am sure there are some that at least try to keep that way and I applaud them. It's the ones that feel the need to show off every chance they get that drive me insane. Yeah, jedi lightshows were always going on in Star Wars in the Cantinas...sheesh.
/eagerly awaiting the 1 stars.
/eagerly awaiting the 1 stars.
Tarquinas Galaxy ~ Teras Kasi Master/Master Doctor ~
ana-mo-cara
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:14 am
#6
My personal oppinion is jedi will find the future to be a bleak existence. Especially with the new CU, and the GCW revamp. Just wait till the overpowered jedi becomes the magical take a base card, because he or she can kill five players with 1 swipe. That is the number one way your profession gets nerfed. Secondly the jedis have seen to it that getting on jedi mountain is easy, by screaming for the hologrind and known paths. What does the future hold. Jedi will be just as easy as master medic is to get. Odds are some day four months from now you will get on and have jedi as a base profession to choose from.
Asfor jedi getting ganked by groups of BH. If this kills more jedi thats really good. Things wouldnt be so bad if jedi were invisible.
taloncard
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:58 am
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A Jedi is 20x more powerful than a MCH ever was.
Yesterday a DJG took me down in 2 seconds. I was KD'ed and dead, checked my combat log and yep 2 seconds. 1 swipe of a LS did 4k damage to me.
Tell me again about all the problems jedi have, durring a time period when they are supposed to be more rare than a GPS baby?
Every live event turns into a Jedi gank fest on my server lately. the Jedi pop out of the woodwork and slaughter every non jedi.
The whole new TEF system has much to do with that and the FRS. These jedi used to hunt by the themeparks looking for TEF'ed n00bs and kill them.
I will not shead a tear for any nerfing they get. No single pofession should so esily kill all.
Yesterday a DJG took me down in 2 seconds. I was KD'ed and dead, checked my combat log and yep 2 seconds. 1 swipe of a LS did 4k damage to me.
Tell me again about all the problems jedi have, durring a time period when they are supposed to be more rare than a GPS baby?
Every live event turns into a Jedi gank fest on my server lately. the Jedi pop out of the woodwork and slaughter every non jedi.
The whole new TEF system has much to do with that and the FRS. These jedi used to hunt by the themeparks looking for TEF'ed n00bs and kill them.
I will not shead a tear for any nerfing they get. No single pofession should so esily kill all.
Cathaia
Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:23 am
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taloncard wrote:
The whole new TEF system has much to do with that and the FRS. These jedi used to hunt by the themeparks looking for TEF'ed n00bs and kill them.
I will not shead a tear for any nerfing they get. No single pofession should so esily kill all.
Even though I have a Jedi myself, I can sign all those things very easily. If you get out for PVP nowadays, the question always is "How many Jedi do we have, how many do the others have?", which is not what I consider fun actually. The only thing people may be asking apart from Jedi is a CM and a Doc for curing the CM's mess.
And for the PSG's, I saw a single Melee stand easily against 2 Jedi Knights due to this thing. He took like 25 damage per hit, and the Jedi just force-ran out when they were getting in trouble. As most Jedi have Force Run, they shouldn't worry anyway. You get into trouble, you get yourself out. The PSG with LS Resist just prevents endless "I killed 1,732,364 Bounty Hunters coming after me so far" lists. If a Bounty Hunter ever gets the mission on me, I know i deserve it and I will fight, no matter how hopeless it is 
Unfortunately we know how the Game Mechanics work. The Jedi just need to get up to a certain level of complaining (most likely including the "cancel subscription" strategy) and the LS resist will be removed from PSG. I will sit, watch and enjoy.
Propagandalf
Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:01 pm
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Anobaca wrote:Sorry I do not feel sorry for the JEDI. Everyone can one star me abd flame me but I will always feel alot of the problems we have now are thanks to holo grinding. PvP is a joke because of defense stakeing then they moved to JEDI. It is nothing but people looking for GOD mode in thsi game. I never wanted to play JEDI and I think I am the only one that missed the you can be a JEDI on the box when I got the game. I got KOTR to play as a JEDI.
Been saying that since the beginning. 5 *
Joker9125
Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:05 pm
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Ok ill edit the origional post like this to make the point I was trying to make alot more clear.
Joker9125 wrote:
LS psgs /anti decay kits
up to 5 Bhs at once can attack a jedi and no one can heal the jedi or attack the BHs
/duel bug still in effect
oh yes i forgot to add...
Bhs can NOW master in a day!(well maybe not master , but sure as he11 get 3/x/x/x (lvl 3 can be grinded in 15 minutes now))
im beginning to think with all the Jedi "nerfing"
that jedi will be more powerful in the c/u and all these freakin "nerfs" will be our reasons to say "hey , STHU " look waht you had vs us especially for all this time, like what 8 months now?
All I can say is...............yup I agree. When everyone else is nerfed to the point that a player pet could actully have a chance of killing them in PvPand the Nerf Cries start sounding Im gonna say the exact same thing (hey , STHU " look waht you had vs us especially for all this time, like what14 months now?).
jopenack
Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:43 pm
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lol i think we all need to start drinking decaf hehe
maybe it was my time away or maybe i'm just getting old lol.
I don't care for anyone whining and crying nerf so and so. been on the recieving end as we ch all know.
bh do not need nerfing neither do jedi. when the CU comes out I think you will see a "leveliing off" if you will with specials. although I am not privy to any info I would assume we will have a "special pool bar" like jedi's have a force pool bar.
limiting specials with its own pool and not being able to buff that pool should even the playing field if 5 bh do attack a jedi. lets be honest too how many times do you ever see 5 bh together lol. two maybe but never 5.
I have no pity for anyone right now, except maybe smugglers :-( they got shafted big time.
I do have a jedi char and with nov lightsaber I did an average of 1300 dam in pve, thats pretty close to mind shot 3 with my rifleman. ok the ls didnt target a specific pool but the point is a ls is pretty powerful at any level. jedicannot wear armor but everything is ls vulnerable. from everything I read and can attest to personally with my limited pvp experience it seems to me jedi are far more balanced in pvp than a mch.
i don't pvp really lol, never cared for it. the biggest problem facing jedi while being hunted is the bugs. if you do not know of them your dead meat. the duel bug = when a bhattacks a jedi, since he has a mission he basically just fires as though its a pve enemy, the bh then uses the duel command and chalanges the jedi. if the jedi is doesn't read the "so an so challenges you to a duel" message he finds himself unable to attack since the system is waiting for him to except or decline. so he basically stands there like an idiot getting beat up till he dies or runs. if a jedi is aware then all they have to do is eccept the duel and surprise the bh who thinks the jedi is powerless to attack him.
I know a few jedi who dont pvp and dont show off they play a jedi as a roleplaying defender of the people lol. which I will someday do myself. once my templates complete I wont care if I die and if hunted will just roleplay it out win or lose. its just a game after all lol.
CH is my main char and I play it 90% of my time online. I have excepted the fact we shall never be un-nerfed but await the CUto see balance brought to this game and the force lol. untill then I cannot shed a tear for jedi nor most other professions but I can't in all honesty want anyone else to be nerfed as we all were.
Just think on this for a second, everyone in all forums say there are too many jedi (myself included, I agree) and everyone says nerf jedi they are too uber. (this I don't agree with) and lateley whenever i see these things being spoken I flashback to when it was all said about us.
I find myself in a quandery to go along with it means I am no better than those who attacked and caused us to be nerfed but I do agree with much of what people say. ah my dilemma lol.
My only answer is to ignore it all lol. unless they attack the ch because this is theprofession I care most for.
Hopefully in a year when the CU comes lmao. there will be a form of balance to this mess.
speaking of the CU what the hell is going on with that lol. we in alpha testing yet??
Anobaca
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:20 pm
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There is one big difference between us and JEDI. The devs said they wanted JEDI to be able to kill 20 elite professions easy. CH was never meant to be that strong and once armour and buffs got better CH was really not that strong. CH was never as strong as JEDI is NEVER.
Message Edited by Anobaca on 02-26-2005 07:22 PM
Joker9125
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:12 pm
#13
Anobaca wrote:
There is one big difference between us and JEDI. The devs said they wanted JEDI to be able to kill 20 elite professions easy. CH was never meant to be that strong and once armour and buffs got better CH was really not that strong. CH was never as strong as JEDI is NEVER.
Message Edited by Anobaca on 02-26-2005 07:22 PM
OM#G!!!!!!!!!
WT#
IM NOT AGREEING WITH ANYTHING ANYONE SAID ABOUT JEDI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SERIOUSLY WT#!!!!!!!!!! I WAS MAKING AN IRONIC COMPARISON BY SAYING THAT IF THE JEDI FEEL THEY HAVE ANY REASON TO COMPLAIN THEN WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE ALOT MORE!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS IN NO WAY ABOUT JEDI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You caint even mention the words Jedi in a post without a flamefest starting. Try actually REREADING MY POST!!!!!!!!!! I dont know how to make it any more clear than what I already said.
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