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Thread: You can't tame that revisited

devious507
Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:58 am
#1

Logged in this morning, did a couple mission lairs, fighting along side my male Kaadu and R3 droid. Came across a chuba, so I stored the kaadu and tried to tame the chuba; and got the dreaded you can't tame that message.
Stored and recalled the droid, grouped and ungrouped with it, still nothing. Finally I decide to leave the poor frog alone and move on, but I checked the radial menu and the tame option was missing.

Moving on towards Moenia, I come across a wild fanned rawl spawn, with 2 babies this time, I try the first one, check the radial, and there is no tame option. Try the ability on my hotbar and /tame, and nothing I get you can't tame that. Move on to the 2nd baby and check its radial, and the option to tame is there. I hit the tame button on my hotbar (the one from ctrl-a) and sucessfully tame the critter.

Open the databad, check for specials, nothing so I set him free and look back at his brother, check the radial, still no tame option, try /tame and the button, nothing. This seems to suggest that its not the toon getting bugged, but the babies themselves seem to be bugged.

The workarounds that have been suggested, dropping from the world, logging out for 20 minutes probably are actually spawning a NEW critter when you log back in, one that doesn't have this bug.

DEVS: The WP for the lair with 1 bugged and 1 unbugged baby was 5340, -4276 on Naboo in case geography has something to do with it too. If this theory is correct, you should be able to wp the lair, ride out 500 or so meeters just like looking for the GPS and then drive back, when you get back the lair should have reset with a new spawn, some of which may be babies, some of which may be adults, but if there is a new baby, I'm thinking it should have a chance of being un-bugged.

We can take this a step further and work in a team and find a bugged lair, then call in a second CH to try taming the baby, the if the 2nd CH is able to tame it, we've pretty much proved that its a bug with the toon, if the second CH can't tame it either, we've pretty much proved its a bug with the spawn. Lets all post results here from testing on your server and see if we can't get the dev's enough information to track down the problem and get it fixed.

Once we've defined exactly what the problem is, we can try to define what causes it, if we can identify both pieces of information it should be a much simpler task for the bug fix team to get this sorted out.



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Brektur
Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:17 am
#2

I think your correct in that the baby is bugged somehow. I too noticed this last night the tame option isnt present every time I got the you cant tame this. Leads me to believe the game sees it as an adult even though it says baby. Because Im a lower level CH I need to store my pet to train a new one so after a few times of storing then not being able to train I started using that method of checking the redial. If tame was on there I would store my pet and tame. If not I would just send in my pet and kill it.



Morticus
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devious507
Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:02 pm
#3

Interesting, the fanned rawls I'm taming are CL8



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Baccarat
Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:16 pm
#4

I got "you can't tame that" on a gaping spider queen baby last night I tried various things to fix it until the baby despawned..

I think it was somehow caused by combat in my case, but I can't say for sure.



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Trash
Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:24 pm
#5


I would agree that it does seem to be the baby thats broken. Running through Endor today I came across a baby jax of some sort. Tried to tame it and got the "you can not tame that" message. Examined the creature and it listed tamable as "no". Ran another 200 meters and ran across another baby jax of the exact same type. This time however when I examined it it listed tamable as "yes" and I was able to tame it. There was no combat involved in either of these encounters for me. Both were spawned without lairs as I was running around. I cant pick out anything different about how/whereI found them or in the way I approached it. They just both had different tamability (is that even a word? lol)



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Seiryuu
Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:33 pm
#6


I would suspect that because the babies have the same CL now as their parents, that the system sometimes spawns an adult as a mis-named baby.

I think this is a definate possibility. I have a screenshot from a month ago of a malkloc (scout)(x14).



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devious507
Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:27 pm
#7

Probably done 30 or 40 more tames since my last post, and used autofollow on all of them and just now hit the bug so I'm pretty sure that my idea about it being related to auto-follow is incorrect.



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JMShunter
Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:34 pm
#8

/sigh im sick of getting exited over finding a baby and then not being able to tame it because of this bug


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devious507
Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:02 pm
#9



JMShunter wrote:

/sigh im sick of getting exited over finding a baby and then not being able to tame it because of this bug

Roguestar






So am I friend, thats why I'm trying to narrow down the cause, obscure bugs tend to be hotfixed fairly quickly once the devs know how to duplicate or whats going on. The Jedi AOE intimidate instant deathblow comes to mind, once they were told exactly how to duplicate it they were able to fix it quick. A few months back some players on .... Chillastra I think... tracked down a ruber-banding problem and it was hotfixed within a week.



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Brektur
Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:58 pm
#10

Well on the babies I had that were "bugged" I did an examine on them and I think they came up as tamable - yes. Also I never use auto-follow so I doubt that is the problem. The one thing I cant remember for the life of me and I have not had a chance to check it tonight was I do believe last night when examining them it didnt say baby in the examination box. Again Im not sure I think that was when I discovered that the tame option wasnt up and never did any more looking and perhaps I just dont remember correctly. Im going to log in now and see if I can find a few babys and check.



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devious507
Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:31 am
#11

One of my guildies just helped me verify it is indeed the baby thats bugged, not the player. Same lair, rode out and back a bunch of times and ended up in the same situation, 1 tamable, 1 that isn't. I had my guildmate come over and try taming them both, and he had the exact same thing, 1 tamable 1 that isn't and they matched what I was seeing on the radial. (i.e. he could tame the one I could have)

I'm beginning to suspect that using auto-follow might increase the chances of the baby being bugged, but need to do further testing on that avenue. With the chuba and the 2 bugged snakes, I had used autofollow all 3 times, I'm going to do some more testing to see if I can get bugged babies without using auto-follow.



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rj00789
Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:54 am
#12

I would suspect that because the babies have the same CL now as their parents, that the system sometimes spawns an adult as a mis-named baby. Thats my theory anyways.... on another note, I spent most the morning on Tattooine taming low level stuff looking for L1 specials andI tamed over a dozen critters and not one had any inherent special! I tried about 3 dune lizards,3 dragonets,a couple banthas,3 or so rills and others. I suppose I coulda been picjing critters that just dont have them, but it didnt seem right, any other planet I've tamed on, I always manage to find something every 3 or 4 tames. Anyone else run into something similar? PS, those fanned rawls are great, CL22 with L1 Bleed, I plan on raising those as my main critters when I have 3 pets out. Especially good in group settings as they are so low to the ground they arent in the way of anyone trying to target the enemy!


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rj00789
Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:11 am
#13

I think I mispoke about them being fanned rawls, they may be spitting rawls, but I know for a fact their CL22, and as far as my theory, I may have it reversed, because I'm assuming they are spawning small like real babies, so they can't be mis-named adults, but I still think its tied to the fact that there the same CL, and the system is getting confused.
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