Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Calling for a Vote of No Confidence Against Vertexon.
Vert does a great job. The whole Spawn Rate issue is an issue because frankly, people disagree! SOme people think "Must be common enough that I dont have to work as much to get!" Though in Tivo's case somethings are TOO RARE, part of the fun of rares is just that... they're rare! Its like being able to click a button and WHAMMO AUTOMASTERED AND HAVE EVERY PROFESSION INCLUDING ALL JEDI SKILLS. Its the thrill of going for it and the strife and struggle! If life was easy at all times, it'd get boring!
Vert has been talking to devs as mentioned at the meeting today. They however have a certain ammount of work and its a matter of delegating work.
DaBudo2 wrote:
A. I don't recall seeing a post where Vert said he was unable to handle correspondent duties. Perhaps you could provide the addy for that.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=191688
"I'm here, and reading the forums. It's been kind of a hectic week in RL, but I hope to be getting my post count up again soon."
B. Perhaps I'm one of the marginal CH that Vert represents, but I'm not sure since I couldn't find the Spawn post you referred to. So I will have to defer comment on this. Perhaps you could provide addy for this as well. Still, from all the posts I've read by Vert it sure seems like he is representing the vast majority of CH.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=190426
I am not here to debate what I would do. But the Correspondent Job is to correspond. He does not, orcannot.
The Correspondent Job is supposed to represent the majority of the community, not just a small fraction.
The communication in this game is so deplorable. It is of little wonder nowthing gets accomplished or when it does it is broken or represents only the minority.
Some may feel it is of little concern that Vert communicates so little with CH. How can anyone be reasonably sure that he even communicates with the Devs or what he does tell them is correct.
I by no means say I represent everyone. The only sure way to know what people feel is to ask. That is what I have done. Let the results stand for themselves.
I have confidence in him as long as he wants the position.
I have none left for the devs as already said. They don't listen, and quite obviously have different priorities.
P9M wrote:
A) Vert has admitted that he cannot keep up with his "job" and real life.
B) Vert only represents a marginal amount of CH's (see recent post regarding Spawn Rates being increased).
C) Vert has given us marginal information from the Devs regarding anything.
D) CH has only gotten worse in the past year. The total of A-C is likely the reason CHis where it stands today.
A) The post you refer to says that he had a very busy week. Who hasn't had one of those?
B) I read that entire thread. What evidence from that and other threads shows that he only represents a marginal amount of CH's?
C) All correspondents are only given a marginal amount of info. Often times they are given info and instructed not to discuss specifics with anyone. Take a look at other forums and see for yourself. The dev team will not give out info with specifics about anything.
D) The problem with communication between correspondents and the developement team exists on the side of the developement team. The same issue exists in EVERY profession. Let's take the smuggler issues as an example:
D: We need a list of the top concerns that smugglers are having so we can fix them.
C: Ok, here's a detailed list
D: Thank you, we'll look into this
(3 months pass)
D: We need a list of the top concerns that smugglers are having so we can fix them.
C: I just gave you a list, nothing on it got fixed, but here's some new issues since you made these other changes in the game too
D: We'll look into this
(3 months pass)
D: We need a list of the top concerns that smuggler are having. We're going to completely revamp the smuggler profession.
C: This is the third list we've given you, the original issues never got fixed, and there are even more things on it. Oh, here's a 100 page document on what the smuggler want to see in the revamp too. Thanks for giving our profession some attention.
D: We'll get right on it. We'll be in touch with you as far as what we can do.
(2 months pass, 3 out of 4 specials get a major nerf, the 4th is completely negated by buffs and armor)
D: We can't do the smuggler revamp because we have no idea what the smugglers want. Let's start discussing what the smugglers would like to see and we will get it done in publish 10.
(Smugglers flip out and start creating an uproar, devs state that the attitude of the smugglers is completely impossible to work with them, and there will be no communication unless "the attitude becomes less poor". Smugglers again discuss the revamp and start preparing a new document, which "C" submits to the dev team - 2 months pass)
D: We can't do the smuggler revamp because we have no idea what the smugglers want. Let's start discussing it and see if we can get a smuggler revamp done after combat balance, which will be out before JTL.
It continues on and on, but you get the picture. How you can justify blaming the correspondent for something completely out of his control is beyond my comprehension(i.e. "CH is balanced in prep for the combat revamp, there will be no change to the CH profession or the creatures", didn't TH say this in one of the 19 answers?). But, if you have evidence that the CH nerf and the lack of any action to make CH more competitive on the part of the dev team is the fault of Vert, please display it.
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