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jopenack

Tue May 03, 2005 6:33 pm

Smed wrote

Hello Everyone,

We realize that the recent Combat Upgrade has caused quite a stir. Yes, we've seen the petition. Yes, we're reading your emails very carefully.. in fact I've responded to many of you personally. From our perspective the Combat Upgrade was a crucial thing for us to do for the long term health of the game. In order to make the experience in SWG morediverse and to breathe new life into this game we felt it was important for us to entirely overhaul the current system and to make sure that it's balanced properly. Are we finished? Not by a longshot... by doing this what we've effectively done is to provide a new baseline to add a lot of new content into the game in a very short time, and to make sure that the professions really mean something in the game. We recognize there are problems that have arisen from this, and what I'd like to ask your help in doing is to target these problems so that we can knock them down very quickly. As you've seen in the last few days, the team is working tirelessly towards fixing any problems that have arisen.. and with your help we're confident we can get the rest of them taken care of as well.

Please understand that we love this game too.. our goal wasn't to upset the existing userbase.. but we do recognize that changing a game does inherently mean some people aren't going to like that change. What we're trying to do is to insure that we can accomplish a lot of what you've all been asking us to do (things like Galactic Civil War) in really cool and meaningul ways.. and frankly speaking, we just couldn't do that with the old combat system in place.

What would really help us is to give us ideas on how we can improve the new system and cool things you would like to see us do in the near term. We aren't going back to the old system, but with your help I'm confident in a few weeks you're going to feel this was the right call. Obviously you are our customers, and you pay the bills around here... we're trying to make changes that are going to make your experience better in the long run. Please bear with us while we make that effort, and give us a little time to respond and address your concerns.

Thanks a lot,

John Smedley

President, Sony Online Entertainment

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My reply to him

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Jopenack wrote

I do not believe you Smed

Why after all the lies that you have told people should I believe you?

You have seen the petition lol But didnt you say the polls showed people in favor and approval of the so called upgrade. You want us to be patient, you want more time, was not a year and a half long enough for a polished upgrade, Oh yea I forgot this wan't the one that was being worked on but a quick two month push for marketing reasons. yes we all know what really happened. Even the infighting that went on in your company.

So after all the lies, misdirection, total disrespect and ansence of any answers from anyone in your company why should we believe you.

lets look at just the last two days shall we. Double xp week advertised and promoted. Didn't anyone tell you that the xp system was broken. A huge portion of your player base doen't get xp since the CU launched. A bone tossed out, a gift if you will to please the masses, Meanwhile you have increased the xp requirements of all skillboxes going into the millions. Yes your players have noticed but you don't really care do you. Its that much longer to do anything another month to charge a fee.

Server downtime today was caused when a panick ensued from jedis getting double the xp penalty apon death. Didnt anyone foresee this? No another rush to do soemthing without thought to consequence. meanwhile people are paying you money for servers to be taken offline.

So why should we believe you?

Why have you suddenly become concerned for your players?

Why have you just now admitted problems and unsatidfied customers when a couple of weeks ago lied during the stratics chatt?

Why should we stay longer if you continue to make the same mistakes and never answer any questions in the forums and continue to give us the silent treatment?

Why believe you when you say you want to improve customer service and communication, but at your dev breakfast a Dev flat out said that red names posting and an increase in communication would not change?

Why should we give more time when beta software is continually toosed out while paying customers test is in live?

Why should we give you are help when you ignore what we say?

Why should we trust a company that has made outcast's of its customer base?

Why doyou deserve my loyal patronage when you totally disrguard my rights as a paying customer?

Why doesn't soe offer reimbersment for a prepaid subscription?

Why must we play a broken game full of bugs due to greed and marketers calling the shots?

Tell me why

When my accounts (Yes Plural) runs dry i'm leaving not because the game is broken but because of a total lack of respect from you and your company, i am going because the lies hav far outnumbered anything good that might have been possible here.

This is what happened to your loyal player base who have been here for years. they do not believe you any longer your credibility is lost. This has been the most disgudting case of ineptitude i have ever seen.

This the end.

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here is the link to the new speech

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=generalgame&message.id=85#M85

SHADOWFIRE - MASTER CREATURE HANDLER / MASTER RIFLEMAN

TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"

Isroz

Tue May 03, 2005 7:04 pm

#2

ouch....well thats a kick is theside to him

did it feel good? hehe alot of us have wanted to do that

Message Edited by Isroz on 05-03-2005 07:05 PM

Naritus-Brian' Phillips
Loyal Imperial Pilot
......not sure what else...

theorb22

Tue May 03, 2005 7:09 pm

#3

OUCH, harsh attacks there Jope....was it all really neccesary? :/.

november 5th 2005- greatest hotfix ever
" you may now board shuttle while burstrunning, running normally, shuffling, walking, standing, sitting, prone, hopskipping, jumping, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU MAY NOW BOARD SHUTTLE WHILE BREATHING!!!!"

jopenack

Tue May 03, 2005 7:10 pm

#4

It felt great lol

TY Isroz

:-)

yes theorb it was lol

There will be 1k pages of steam being let off by morning there

You should probably expect a forum crash too lol

Message Edited by jopenack on 05-03-2005 10:14 PM

SHADOWFIRE - MASTER CREATURE HANDLER / MASTER RIFLEMAN

TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"

Isroz

Tue May 03, 2005 7:13 pm

#5

hey a little off topic but u get my PM?

Naritus-Brian' Phillips
Loyal Imperial Pilot
......not sure what else...

jopenack

Tue May 03, 2005 7:15 pm

#6

sorry didnt notice il read it now, was busy reading the other post there, be replying soon :-)

SHADOWFIRE - MASTER CREATURE HANDLER / MASTER RIFLEMAN

TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"

theorb22

Tue May 03, 2005 7:17 pm

#7

Looking back on the reactions of people to posts like that, I'd probably say that there probably will be 1k pages of very angry people as well :/. But really, if we all know they don't listen at all to angry people...well...whats with the anger? :/

Message Edited by theorb22 on 05-03-2005 07:17 PM

november 5th 2005- greatest hotfix ever
" you may now board shuttle while burstrunning, running normally, shuffling, walking, standing, sitting, prone, hopskipping, jumping, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU MAY NOW BOARD SHUTTLE WHILE BREATHING!!!!"

Isroz

Tue May 03, 2005 7:18 pm

#8

just feels good to let some steam off....id prolly get banned if i wrote hem soemthing....just cause im evil that way

Naritus-Brian' Phillips
Loyal Imperial Pilot
......not sure what else...

Dodece

Tue May 03, 2005 7:20 pm

#9

I think its less a question about the devs these guys could care one way or the other. They are doing a job. The problem is that the community was never focused from the start as it should have been. The game really needed a solid direction, and it never really clicked. The game was designed to have to far and wide an appeal. So in the end what one player wants another player does not, and to make matters worse players want all or nothing.

I am not defending the devs, but as george carlin said maybe its not the politicians that suck maybe its the public that sucks. What has this game run off of sheer and utter confusion. I blame both halves. The devs for not putting their foots down, and saying no this is going to be this way to keep the game balanced. Which they failed to do repeatedly, and I blame the players for screaming oh give me that its mine. Yeah but this buff will make the game unchallengeing give me that its mine. Well that move is getting abused. To hell with you that is mine.

In other words its everyones fault. Try going to Mcdonalds and pull what has gone on with this game. Give me a double cheeseburger ohh I am on a diet wipe off the catchup and leave me with a pickle, I want a vanilla milkshake poured over my fries. The truth is right now the devs made the right call. They pushed through a balanced system, and all the whineing aint going to change that. Thats good without it this game would be dead right now, and its not.

We needed balance thats what the CU has given us. Yeah it has bugs and issues but it is balanced. The fact that not everyone is a crafter now, or that people cannot just own every mob in the game is testament to that, and the fact that players are actually playing with me instead of beside me is another good sign.

Remember the DEVS did not pull this out their rear ends. This stuff came right from the sandboxers us.

theorb22

Tue May 03, 2005 7:24 pm

#10

No offence, but it really isn't perfectly balanced if I can kill the people who used to be the best players ever yesterday in5 or 6commando blasts before they can even get in range, and a swordsman can kill me in 3 earth-shattering attacks....and we already know about the CL 50 pet being killed by CL 40 creatures thingy :/.

november 5th 2005- greatest hotfix ever
" you may now board shuttle while burstrunning, running normally, shuffling, walking, standing, sitting, prone, hopskipping, jumping, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU MAY NOW BOARD SHUTTLE WHILE BREATHING!!!!"

jopenack

Tue May 03, 2005 7:30 pm

#11

lol Dodoce I actually agree with that, but to a point

They should have told us what they had planned "then" asked for input, then tell us the why's and hows' and what could and couldn't be done.

Working together isn't asking for input then throwing nothing into it but doing your own thing.

truthfully my biggest problem is the lieng they do lol I'm kinda one of those moral guided people lol. laws are good but there is an exception to em all, moral right and wrongs mean more to me than legal right and wrongs. I just have a hard time with being manipulated and used like a tea bag lol.

SHADOWFIRE - MASTER CREATURE HANDLER / MASTER RIFLEMAN

TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"

Siruswhite-star

Tue May 03, 2005 7:37 pm

#12

Dodece wrote:

I think its less a question about the devs these guys could care one way or the other. They are doing a job. The problem is that the community was never focused from the start as it should have been. The game really needed a solid direction, and it never really clicked. The game was designed to have to far and wide an appeal. So in the end what one player wants another player does not, and to make matters worse players want all or nothing.

I am not defending the devs, but as george carlin said maybe its not the politicians that suck maybe its the public that sucks. What has this game run off of sheer and utter confusion. I blame both halves. The devs for not putting their foots down, and saying no this is going to be this way to keep the game balanced. Which they failed to do repeatedly, and I blame the players for screaming oh give me that its mine. Yeah but this buff will make the game unchallengeing give me that its mine. Well that move is getting abused. To hell with you that is mine.

In other words its everyones fault. Try going to Mcdonalds and pull what has gone on with this game. Give me a double cheeseburger ohh I am on a diet wipe off the catchup and leave me with a pickle, I want a vanilla milkshake poured over my fries. The truth is right now the devs made the right call. They pushed through a balanced system, and all the whineing aint going to change that. Thats good without it this game would be dead right now, and its not.

We needed balance thats what the CU has given us. Yeah it has bugs and issues but it is balanced. The fact that not everyone is a crafter now, or that people cannot just own every mob in the game is testament to that, and the fact that players are actually playing with me instead of beside me is another good sign.

Remember the DEVS did not pull this out their rear ends. This stuff came right from the sandboxers us.

I agree with you 100%. Pre-Cu this game was wayyyyy to easy. A profession that could solo a Krayt, people getting elite professions in a day or 2 just by getting buffed and killing huurtons or quenkers on Dant. They put in the CU tostop that as well as balance the professions more than they were. I've noticed something and that is that they removed pretty much all teh specials that were broken. I believe once they get the bugs fixed and people learn how to use teh new system some of the haters will realize it is not to bad or some may even begin to like it. I agree with the People that are upset/agry that the Devs did kinda lie and decieve, but it is our fault, we wanted a rebalance they gave us one, I bet if they would have done the CURB a different way there would still be just as many angry people.

Sirus White-Star-The Hot Horni Badass looking medic-{DMG-I}

Fariana-Electrifying Jedi-{DMG-I}

jopenack

Tue May 03, 2005 7:41 pm

#13

Bedtime cya in the morning

Oh and

kudo's to Kitoth and Raynedog,

I saw you both posted there in the first 8 pages lol.

and to anyone else that tried to make a point or vent. both are constructive "from a certain point of view"

I learned that from Obi Wan lol.

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dang it lol

Actually the sandbox people had little to do with design, and they were kinda tossed aside.

The original cu was different, the one given out at austin that is. This was put together real quick for themovie and there was a little infighting somedevs were upset that the original cu was being tossed aside for this one.

True stuff, someday I'l tell ya how I know but this was a quick fix tossed out for marketing reasons.

Message Edited by jopenack on 05-03-2005 10:46 PM

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TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"

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