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Thread: CL 70 BE Pet; 9 Slots... What would YOU do?

Sosstuborx
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:19 am
#1

The pet:


CL 70 BE Razor Cat

6200 Health

477 Max Damage

(Will update other stats later when I am home).


When fully leveled I will have 9 slots to fill. I am thinking:


Marring Storm L3


477 * 1.18 = 563! Too nuts to pass up, will focus this crazy guy on damage.


Now, what would be more beneficial, Beastly Constitution L3to get the health up, or Thick Skin L3? What is the effectiveness of Think Skin? I could do all threeL3 but that would not leave space for:


Hamstring Attack L1

Knockdown L1

Fleet Footed L1orIntimidate L1 (if they ever make states effective again)


Thoughts?





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Turbomicra
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:25 am
#2


Hehe, I was about to ask the same. Got a razor cat too


CL 69


Health 6513


Armor 4609


Damage 103-407



And I don't know whether I should make it to a damage dealer with low agro or to a tank pet with more HP / Armor and Agro Bonus


Jak_Herer
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:47 am
#3

Questions please



1) Is the pet for pure PvE or PvP or will you use for a mixture of both?


2) Whatis the rest of your template?







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Aesop
Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:12 am
#4


Marring L3


Thick Skin L3


Hamstring L2


FleetFoot L1



PVP pet.






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Sosstuborx
Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:19 am
#5






Jak_Herer wrote:

Questions please


1) Is the pet for pure PvE or PvP or will you use for a mixture of both?


2) Whatis the rest of your template?





Awe crap, the hard questions!


Mostly, PvE, with perhaps a little bit of PvP thrown in.


Template: MBH / MCH / CM 4-0-0-0


Given the way I can heal at the moment I am not too worried about the pet holding agro (why I have left Aggression off the list), and am basically looking for a high damage dealer.


For high end PvE content I worry about it's health and armour (I believe it is 4xxx, will check that in a few); even though I will maintain most of the hate, area attacks might hit the thing fairly hard. Need to test it against a few GDK's before it is fully trained, I suppose.


Perhaps I should look for a similar pet at CL 69 / 68? Then I can have a med droid out as well, and perhaps a CL 1 state platform pet? GAH! so many options....







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Sosstuborx
Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:22 am
#6






Aesop wrote:


Marring L3


Thick Skin L3


Hamstring L2


FleetFoot L1


PVP pet.





That does sound good; what is the benefit of Hamstring L2 versus L1? Greater chance to stick? Longer duration? (Is this in the stickies? I may be a bit thick...)


Are there any stats about Thick Skin available? Would like to claculate the approximate benefit versus simply adding more health...







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Seiryuu
Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:57 am
#7

The Marring Storm bonus is a little random, so it may not be exactly 1.18. A lot of times, the L1 specials have more of a percentage benefit than the L2 or L3 per slot spent. You might try the first level and see what sort of boost that gives you and keep the other two slots open.

Thick Skin L3 may be a good choice. CL 70 creatures were coming out with resistances above 50%. Without it their resistance is around 42%.

Vigorous Health will give 6548 (L1), 6956 (L2), or 7444 (L3) final health. A single level of Beastly Con may be enough of a regeneration boost. If you want to consider getting higher levels, try the L1 special out first and see if it meets your needs.

I like intimidate personally, as it is a 20% damage reduction. Depending on the pets roll, you may want to consider Aggression (L1), too.

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Dodece
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:11 pm
#8

First I would say your template needs to be listed.


1. If you have CM BC is of little consequence to you. Your heals more then cover that.


2. Your health is way too low to use this pet as a top end tank. Seriously a top end tank tips the scales at upwards of 11k. Give serious though to enbolden you have it use it get that boost.


3. When in doubt thick skin is the way to go nobody is really sure whether it works on BE pets. It reduces your pet damage taken and thus is more effective in a low health pet and yes you have a low health pet even with vig health L3


My advice is to have these abilities as a minimum


Marring storm L1, Imperiling feint in groups people love this since it stacks with other armorbreaks, Bleeding attack, Eye gouge, hamstring, knockdown, intimidation, thick skin L2 alot of players have armorbreak its catching on. Now you have a pet that can be a effective damage multiplier not just for you but for a group.


P.S. every state applied matters no matter how modest.


AJedimasterNow
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:20 am
#9

Well I am gonna take my pet and go Thick skin 3, Vigorous health 3 (However my pet is 8.1k h and 450 dmg so mine is a better tank) and Marring storm 3... it shall be a tank only, (This is for a BH/MCH she has KD) For my alt though I will make another such tank and put similar to what someone else did she is a MBE/MCH or will be when she's done with CH hehe.



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rj00789
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:46 am
#10

I'm in a similar predicament. I recently leveled up my CL69 Woolimander I purchased from Ame'thyst (spelling ?) who's a BE and CH. This lil puppy started out with a nice 9073 health and 369 max damage! It also now has 9 slots. I'm MCH/MBH CM 4000. I'm not a major jedi killer, but will be testing the waters eventually for some fun, Mainly PVE I was thinking of Vig health to take to a whopping 10660 health, and then thick skin 3, and maybe a level of imp feint and intimidate, or should I do a third level 3 and then get a CL 1 pet with a couple slots for the intimidate and feint???
Baccarat
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:18 pm
#11

knockdown L1 sticks very well also.



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Amethyst-Moonshadow
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:43 pm
#12






rj00789 wrote:

I'm in a similar predicament. I recently leveled up my CL69 Woolimander I purchased from Ame'thyst (spelling ?) who's a BE and CH. This lil puppy started out with a nice 9073 health and 369 max damage! It also now has 9 slots. I'm MCH/MBH CM 4000. I'm not a major jedi killer, but will be testing the waters eventually for some fun, Mainly PVE I was thinking of Vig health to take to a whopping 10660 health, and then thick skin 3, and maybe a level of imp feint and intimidate, or should I do a third level 3 and then get a CL 1 pet with a couple slots for the intimidate and feint???






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woolamanders are my fave (as you could prolly tell from my vendors, lol) and I haven't taken the time to level up any of my higher level pets yet... I'm always trying to plan out the combination of abilities to fit my play style. To me, that's what is so exciting and interesting about the new CH system... the fact that there is no one right way to combine abilities on a pet- you and I could do it completely different and come out with a completely different pet! The possibilities are (almost) endless I guess I should drag myself away from my BE/DNA Lab (but I don't wannaaaaa!) and work some of my pets up. I'm still SO confused on for sure how many ability slots my pets will end up with, so I think I'll do a test and wait and see how many slots I get so I know for sure and can plan accordingly. I think for me, Aggression is important since I'm a BE as my secondary profession and can't really deal much damage. On my BE pets with 9k health, I think I'm going to focus on damage abilities, and focus on health abilities like thick skin or vig health for my high damage/lower health pets. Both I think I will put beastly constitution on for regen. Not for sure yet- let us know how it goes and what template you plan for your pet!







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Trapper-Flurry
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:47 pm
#13



rj00789 wrote:
I'm in a similar predicament. I recently leveled up my CL69 Woolimander I purchased from Ame'thyst (spelling ?) who's a BE and CH. This lil puppy started out with a nice 9073 health and 369 max damage! It also now has 9 slots. I'm MCH/MBH CM 4000. I'm not a major jedi killer, but will be testing the waters eventually for some fun, Mainly PVE I was thinking of Vig health to take to a whopping 10660 health, and then thick skin 3, and maybe a level of imp feint and intimidate, or should I do a third level 3 and then get a CL 1 pet with a couple slots for the intimidate and feint???





Yeah I got my CL70 Woolamander from her, very good BE Its named Sir Groovy LOL Sadly I havent even called it yet as I am working on my bull rancor and other tamed pets



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