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Thread: I just realised WHY the ch combat profession is not as powerful as other combat professions.
Message Edited by BZebub on 04-11-2004 01:34 PM
Nothing keeps a combat medic from poisoning you and then pulling out a rifle ... nothing keeps a Pistoleer from throwing in some Smuggler special attacks ...
The crippling of CH was an over-nerf that simply has never been corrected, a mistake that SOE lacks the resources to rectify in anything close to a reasonable period of time.
Manmas-Fin wrote:
Because it is the only combat profession you can use at the same time as another. For instance you cannot use TK at the same time as pistoleer, but you can use CH and rifleman at the same time.
Message Edited by JoNakU on 04-11-2004 01:42 PM
TheJ3W wrote:
You're wrong already, CH is not a combat profession. It's a support profession. It's not supposed to be equal with the combat profs.. because it's not one.
um any profession that deals dmg and actually fights is a combat profession
things like medic, dancer, artisan are support professions
You're wrong. CH IS a support class. Much the same way Combat Medic is a support class. Both of our classes are capable of dealing damage on their own. But i think its obvious that neither us, nor them do exceptionally well without a real combat class as part of their template.
actually i should ammend that... CM and CH are "combat support classes." Whereas entertainers and medics are purely support classes. But the thing is, both CM and CH spend more skill points to master than most combat classes. While CM is balanced, CH is clearly not. CMs have their place in the GCW and other areas of the game. CHs are needed and wanted nowhere. We have no calling, and no purpose, atleast as far as the devs are concerned. After publish 5 we've hadno pet market, we've lost most of our combat effectiveness, and we're just as useless in theGCW now as we were then. Personally.. to hell with GCW. What does bother me is the fact that i have no pet market, and that i don't have a needed position in PvE hunting. What kind of support class has nothing to support? I mean... BE suposedly supports CH, but i find that hard for a support class to support a support class which is not needed. I don't even want to get into the BE issue, i made myself perfectly clear about my individual disgustand that of my fellow MCHs.
TheJ3W wrote:
You're wrong already, CH is not a combat profession. It's a support profession. It's not supposed to be equal with the combat profs.. because it's not one.
And you have no friggin clue what you are talking about.
An equal profession would beDroid handler. Would you say Droid handlers are a support profession? No, you wouldnt.
Can my pet do ANYTHING other than attack? Nope, and it barely can do that... So in what way does it support ANYTHING?
Jereck wrote:
You're wrong. CH IS a support class. Much the same way Combat Medic is a support class. Both of our classes are capable of dealing damage on their own. But i think its obvious that neither us, nor them do exceptionally well without a real combat class as part of their template.
actually i should ammend that... CM and CH are "combat support classes." Whereas entertainers and medics are purely support classes. But the thing is, both CM and CH spend more skill points to master than most combat classes. While CM is balanced, CH is clearly not. CMs have their place in the GCW and other areas of the game. CHs are needed and wanted nowhere. We have no calling, and no purpose, atleast as far as the devs are concerned. After publish 5 we've hadno pet market, we've lost most of our combat effectiveness, and we're just as useless in theGCW now as we were then. Personally.. to hell with GCW. What does bother me is the fact that i have no pet market, and that i don't have a needed position in PvE hunting. What kind of support class has nothing to support? I mean... BE suposedly supports CH, but i find that hard for a support class to support a support class which is not needed. I don't even want to get into the BE issue, i made myself perfectly clear about my individual disgustand that of my fellow MCHs.
The devs haven't made up their #)&$%#@&$@ minds whether Ch is support or combat.
hence the problem with many of us trying to figure out what to suggest in the way of "fixes"
KzinKiller wrote:
Nothing keeps a combat medic from poisoning you and then pulling out a rifle ... nothing keeps a Pistoleer from throwing in some Smuggler special attacks ...
The crippling of CH was an over-nerf that simply has never been corrected, a mistake that SOE lacks the resources to rectify in anything close to a reasonable period of time.
no the difference is that a combat medic is not tossing a disease and shooting at the same time. the pistoleer is not launching a stopping shot and a fanshot with the same trigger pull.