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Thread: Ranger & CH should be Combined

jamgar30
Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:27 pm
#1

Ranger is pretty useless at this point unless you just harvest skins and stuff. The perfect fix for ranger is to go ahead and combine it with creature handler and get rid of the profession as a whole. Also Squad leader could be made into a profession comparable to CH but with faction pets but remove the perma-death on faction pets.
DMDexter
Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:28 am
#2

No offense, but if I wanted to play World of Warcraft, I'd play World of Warcraft, and this game is too much like WOW already. Add a ranged profession, and you're describing a hunter, and then it is no longer a Ranger.
Aerontako_Shretalon
Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:34 am
#3

What would happen to all the Doctor/Ranger then? It's a pretty good class combo, more so if Hello Nurse is also a lapdancer in her spair time.
Phenix1050
Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:34 am
#4

People really must love Ranger skills. There have been proposals for Ranger to be combined with Squad Leader, Creature Handler, Bounty Hunter...the list goes on and on. But the answer, every time, has been a resounding "get yer grubby hands offa my skillset" from the Ranger forum. We don't want to be combined with anything. We want our skills to work. We want your skills to work. You keep your skills, we'll keep ours. If something is broken, you fix it. You don't tape a broken toaster to a broken refridgerator and say that they both are working, do you? So why put together two professions which have almost nothing in common? You tame creatures, I slaughter them wholesale and then rip the flesh from their bones. Two entirely different ideas on what to do with tameable creatures.



PHE'NIX ANTARUS
BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
-Xell-
Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:44 am
#5

The sheer arrogance of the original poster infuriates me. Ranger is a profession that many of us have put MANY hours into and for you to declare it useless and that CH should get all of our skills really pisses me off.




Rizzazi Z. Cavi
Master Ranger7\/8Master Rifleman
Dirty? You should see me on a bad day
Aerontako_Shretalon
Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:46 am
#6

And they have those frig'n awsome tents. CH may want the abeality to track, but every other profession just wants a home away from home.
Teero
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:02 am
#7






Aerontako_Shretalon wrote:

And they have those frig'n awsome tents. CH may want the abeality to track, but every other profession just wants a home away from home.






I can understand the Tent-Envy. Nothing beats putting up a HTFB.


As Phenix stated, instead of combining 2 broken professions that are completely unrelated, what needs to be done is the fix the unrelated professions instead.



Also, Ranger is a lot more valuable than just harvesting resources.


Rangers can track players, NPCs, and creatures


Rangers can throw traps to inflict state effects on creatures (some work some dont)


Rangers can Camo themselves and others to sneak past NPCs and Creatures. (yes anyone can apply cammo now, but Rangers have the skill mod to keep it from breaking every 2 seconds)




Right there are 3 very valuable tools that a Ranger can use that do not involve organic harvesting.




besides, why would you want broken Ranger abilities added to your already broken profession?





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LiraDenetrus
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:14 am
#8



Phenix1050 wrote:
People really must love Ranger skills. There have been proposals for Ranger to be combined with Squad Leader, Creature Handler, Bounty Hunter...the list goes on and on. But the answer, every time, has been a resounding "get yer grubby hands offa my skillset" from the Ranger forum. We don't want to be combined with anything. We want our skills to work. We want your skills to work. You keep your skills, we'll keep ours. If something is broken, you fix it. You don't tape a broken toaster to a broken refridgerator and say that they both are working, do you? So why put together two professions which have almost nothing in common? You tame creatures, I slaughter them wholesale and then rip the flesh from their bones. Two entirely different ideas on what to do with tameable creatures.





qfe...well-said, phenix.



Lira Denetrus
Master Ranger - Master Rifleperson
Mayor of Antaria - The Ranger City of Naritus
ioan
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:16 am
#9

Ranger and CH should NOT be combined. I'd like to hope that the original poster was joking, but I doubt it. If those professions were combined, as a Master Ranger / Master Creature Handler I'd lose most of my Pity Generation bonus.



Emaa
Starsider
Master Ranger / Master Creature Handler / Taun taun Handler #3

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DaBudo2
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:32 am
#10

I think we shouldcombine all professions with Creature Handler Don't we all want to see gnorts be able to use flamethrowers?


I've always said that no two professions complement one another quitelike Ranger and Creature Handler do. But they are very different professions, and I can only think the suggestion to do away with Ranger - a very cool profession by itself - is simply meant to be an attention getter and start some heated discussions.


However, the 3 most borked professions in this game are probably CH, Ranger, and Squad Leader. (Smugglers might disagree with that though ). The advantage of combining all 3 into one profession is that than it would be the biggest borked profession in the game.





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groundcrew
Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:07 am
#11






jamgar30 wrote:

Ranger is pretty useless at this point unless you just harvest skins and stuff. The perfect fix for ranger is to go ahead and combine it with creature handler and get rid of the profession as a whole. Also Squad leader could be made into a profession comparable to CH but with faction pets but remove the perma-death on faction pets.





ROFL obvously your not a ranger...........



Flakk Gun:Elder Ranger
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome

"My camps may be gone and my cammo changed to Vanish....But I still have my rifle, I still have my love of hunting...and the outdoors, and THAT is what makes me a Ranger."
groundcrew
Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:18 am
#12






Phenix1050 wrote:

People really must love Ranger skills. There have been proposals for Ranger to be combined with Squad Leader, Creature Handler, Bounty Hunter...the list goes on and on. But the answer, every time, has been a resounding "get yer grubby hands offa my skillset" from the Ranger forum. We don't want to be combined with anything. We want our skills to work. We want your skills to work. You keep your skills, we'll keep ours. If something is broken, you fix it. You don't tape a broken toaster to a broken refridgerator and say that they both are working, do you? So why put together two professions which have almost nothing in common? You tame creatures, I slaughter them wholesale and then rip the flesh from their bones. Two entirely different ideas on what to do with tameable creatures.






/agree


absoulutly the best analogy yet! People need to quit trying to fix there profs by breaking others. leave Ranger alone its fine! it just needs a few small fixes and tweeks.





Flakk Gun:Elder Ranger
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome

"My camps may be gone and my cammo changed to Vanish....But I still have my rifle, I still have my love of hunting...and the outdoors, and THAT is what makes me a Ranger."
JBMat
Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:56 am
#13

Gee - from my point of view CH is pretty damned useless. No one wants mounts anymore, unless they like going slow. I run faster than some, especially up hills. Pets in combat? Laughably useless, all they do is stand there and die, and all too quickly for them to be useful tanks even.


CH takes up a fair amount of points so that they are fairly useless in combat. Combined with useless pets that let leakers by and they die really fast.


How about they make all the CHs into farmers. They can raise psuedochickens and robas and maybe herd nerfs. Yeah, that would be a good deal for them.


/sarcasm off


the original poster should speak not of what he has no knowledge of. Best he should continue to tame small animals and make nice with them, before some mean old Ranger follows him and kills all the little beasties, as we do best.


JB


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