Creature Handler Archive

Thread: Publish 7: And the hits just keep on coming.

loonatik
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:55 am
#1




I am at a loss to understand why the DEV's wouldadd to the already thick pile of problems withCH. I really just can not figure it out. Is there some broader vision in mind? Do they really think all of this is going to help CH????? Weit has been absolutely useless for quite a few patches now.Publish 7 seems to just add more crap. I started ch knowing that it had problems. I was assuming that by the time I hit MCH these issues would be resolved. Im now 100k away from MCH and they are still adding onto the problems. Lets go over these lovely additions to our profession.


· New Mounts: Players have two new mounts available to them with Publish 7; Banthas and Cu-Pa’s!


Whoopde Friggin do..... Did they mention any of the other issues like making player mounts something people actually WANT? No. Did they mention fixing speeders to actually be difficult to maintain, allow player mounts to be a cheaper alternative? No. Did they mention helping mounts in ANY WAY? No.


· Camp Restrictions Removed: After Publish 7, players will no longer be required to be in camps to pull out Vehicles, Mounts, Droids or Pets and can pull them out wherever they are, eliminating the player inconveniences of having to find rural areas far from cities, lairs and other no-build zones in order to build a camp. The basic rules of calling Vehicles, Mounts, Droids or Pets are:


Sounds great, but lets look at what we lose by getting this.


· A player will not be able to call a vehicle/mount/pet/droid during combat or 60 seconds after combat is concluded.


So lets see, compile a 60 second timer onto the problem of our pets automatically disappearing during combat. Hmm. Sounds like a lot of down time. Lets assume they fix that bug. What would happen if a rifleman could not pull out his gun when something attacks him? That would be one dead rifleman. Sounds like alot of burst running in our future.


· There is a 30 second delay after you call for a vehicle/mount/pet/droid before it will generate.


Again, more down time. We will have to ALWAYS have our pets out. Which means going cross country becomes very dangerous for us. What if im crusing along on my speeder (because mounts are useless), and I come across a few rebels who start to attack me. Do I ask them to wait 30 seconds while my pets get created? I bet that would go over well. Wait a minute, I can't even take out my pet because I would be in combat.


· A player will not be able to call a mount/pet/droid while mounted or on a vehicle.


Not that big of a deal, but is a negative ontop of the other problems CH has.


· A player will not be able to call a vehicle while mounted or on a vehicle.

DeneziB
Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:43 pm
#2

Hey. Read my .sig.



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vieda
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:49 pm
#3

DeneziB, by always placing that as a reply and wanting people to read it, are you trying to be funny or just an idiot in your own right? The original poster makes sense, you on the other hand have nothing to say, you just haverediculous sig. Oh I get it , your trolling for someone like me to take your bait and say something like I just said. Now I feel like an idiot.



Lord Vieda
NlMH
Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:05 pm
#4

Perhaps the Devs are just taking the wrong approach to Creature Handling.


Instead of fixing Creaturing Handling and making it a useful profession, the main question they seem to be asking themselves is, "How do we make a useless profession more fun without ignoring everyone else?"


So far this approach has failed on both accords


We're not Crafters and we're not a Combat Class.


With sliced Composite and Defense Stacking, who needs support? Although the latter has been promised to be dealt with in the next publish, so we'll just have to wait and see.


Gathering Meat, HIde and Bone is what it boils down to and given the time invested, not economically sound.





"Dogs have masters. Cats have staff" -Anonymous
pulse_born4Women
Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:08 pm
#5

well said loonatik



pulse
fantoq
Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:27 am
#6






DeneziB wrote:
Hey. Read my .sig.




Anybody who even uses "a total UbEr L337 DuDe idiot" in their signature doesn't need any further explanation




fantoq
MCH
former Medic
App. Carbineer
Society of Interplanetary Mercenaries[SIM]/ stargate/ naboo
Pahbi
Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:37 am
#7

I hope the 30 second timer doesn't apply if your in a city or your home or you take the time to make a camp. If it does, that will *REALLY* suck.


- Pahbi
loonatik
Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:36 pm
#8






Pahbi wrote:

I hope the 30 second timer doesn't apply if your in a city or your home or you take the time to make a camp. If it does, that will *REALLY* suck.


- Pahbi





It takes 30 seconds anywhere.



Loonatik
Master Troller
Pahbi
Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:38 pm
#9

God thats gonna suck... why don't they just delete the profession...


- Pahbi
Indene
Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:18 pm
#10


DeneziB wrote:
Hey. Read my .sig.

"IF you've ever written a Dear John Letter on the forums about how you're leaving the game or your profession, IF you've ever cried and whined in a post about the Devs balancing a profession to make gameplay fair, IF you've ever done either of those things, then you're an idiot ... a total UbEr L337 DuDe idiot. You make me sick."






Really thoughtful and caring response there DenezilB

-Indene-



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Indene
Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:21 pm
#11


Pahbi wrote:
God thats gonna suck... why don't they just delete the profession...
- Pahbi





And remember as written it is going to affect ALL called items. pets/driods/vehicles etc.


-Indene-



Master Creature Handler - Kettemoor Nov 2003, Radiant Nov 13, 2005
http://www.swgcreatures.com/forums/phpbb2/index.php
Once Happy contented successful Master Merchant. (RiverBend, Naboo.)
Then came the dark times. The NGE
"its as if i heard a million pets cry out in terror...and they were suddenly silenced...i feel a great disturbance in the force"
We're the few, the proud, the Creature Handlers.
Creature Handler Memorial at -1419 283 Mos Mesric, Tatooine, Kettemoor
BE and CH museum at 6627 5365 Tatooine, Chimaera
Find me on MySpace
Cactus_Jack
Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:38 am
#12

That light at the end of the tunnel, isn't a light. Its a Train.
spoiledbrat
Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:55 am
#13


Define "USEFULNESS" or how you said it, I have the feeling you´re only relating to combat, nothing more.


Hmm, the way I understood some of the timer delays work, the delays are only if you dont use a camp.With a camp, things are the same they are now.


Have you noticed they added more pet animations? Oh that´s not a concern to you, combat is the answer, sorry.



Message Edited by spoiledbrat on 02-23-2004 04:59 PM



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