Creature Handler Archive
Thread: How did CH become so shatty ?
I'm thinking it's not really worth it anymore. I wasn't around in the begining, but I heard CH was really powerful and thus, deserved a nerf'ing. So up until the CURB, we played second fiddle to tailors and architects. Since the CURB hit, we spent a few weeks with a XP cap on tier 1 boxes of 30k (tier 1 boxes take 170k) and we had all pets revert to a CL1 (0) state during a double XP week. Now the elite pets aren't worth having either.
The only reason I'm a CH still is because I'm also a rifleman. So I can dish out enough dmg that I don't have to worry about the pets. (And because I love em so much 
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I will retort that as mentioned in another thread, it seems more like you're spamming than anything else. And frankly, it's just getting annoying.
QuantumArtist wrote:
Dont bother retorting unless you own a well made BE pet cause if you did own a WELL MADE BE pet, you wouldnt retort.
QuantumArtist wrote:
Hahaha! Its all about the BE pets guys. As long as yall keep using natural pets, you'll continue to feel this way about CH.
Dont bother retorting unless you own a well made BE pet cause if you did own a WELL MADE BE pet, you wouldnt retort.
O.k, you're really getting on my t*ts now. Is this all you have to say in nearly every thread going? No other useful comment to help anyone? Just the same old spam? thought so.
I'll say again, what I've said before. BE pets aren't everyones cup of tea, please respect that. I'm very glad that ur o.k with the game, but for everyone else who DOESN'T use BE pets, it's a wee bit buggered to say the least and things need to be fixed to make it a "well rounded" game for everyone concerned.
I'm hoping with the positive feedback we've been getting from the Devs lately, we may be heading for some decent changes.
It is a shame they can't make pets grow quicker for those training up the CH tree so they can use their pets more effectively, maybe this is something we can ask the devs to think about changing for people! Maybe the lower the cl level of a pet, the faster it'll grow! 
Message Edited by Isroz on 07-04-2005 04:09 AM
Nerfmeh wrote:
SWG vet, and was wondering how did it get this way? Its my first time back playing in over a year and I am sorry, but CH sucks.
CH was my very first master right before Dancer... and that was back in the god days. I don't think that's ever coming back because what we saw was everyone picking up CH to basically double their combat power. We got nerfed to high heaven to stop that "pocket monster" effect it was giving the game where every battle looked like Beast Wars instead of Star Wars. The CU changes were supposed to allow CH to become a tactical option instead of a weapon class substitute.
I don't think we're there yet, but I think the Devs (or at least JFreeman) are still trying to make that happen. When it all gets ironed out, I think CH won't suck at all and will be a really neat option for players who enjoy pet class group tactics. Knowing which pet to call for each situation and based on your group's prof make up should be our most important player skill in the end.
QuantumArtist wrote:Hahaha! Its all about the BE pets guys. As long as yall keep using natural pets, you'll continue to feel this way about CH.
Dont bother retorting unless you own a well made BE pet cause if you did own a WELL MADE BE pet, you wouldnt retort.
And which well made level 70 BE pet do you have that can go toe to toe with level 80 mobs (my mission level as a CH/Rifleman) pray tell?
Ive only seen exploited ones using bugged pre CU DNA myself(I have a master BE on test center along with my master CH, for this exact reason), but please, prove me wrong.
As to the OP, CH suffered from popularity.
We were overpowered in the days pre buffs, 80% comp and , most important, the addtion of melee and ranged mitigation, and the nerf bat swung.
Would we have been overpowered in the game as we were once th ebuffs etc became common? No, but hindsight is an easy way to critisize.
In fact, the CH situation pre nov 2003 can draw parallels with the current jedi situation.
Overpowered? to an extent,although not nearly what people would have you beleive, FOTM definately, the fact most people had 0003 CH to pull a couple of grauls was a testiment to the problem.
The real issue of where we are now is that since Nov 2003, CH has been largely ignored, the bugs left to fester, and despite the fact we were the first profession in the game to be told 'wait till the combat upgrade' , it came and went with no benefits to us at all.
In fact it broke more things than it fixed within this profession.
I dont know why I cant talk about BE pets. They're every bit a part of CH, but nobody mentions them to people asking questions. Its sad really. Not to take away from natural pets in any way.
As far as "spam" goes, it may have more to do with either the fact that I'm writing at 4am and theres nobody on to "discuss" with (thus spreading my replies out) or that our once great profession has been reduced to about 10 oversensitive participants on this forum... which is more likely the case. Sorry I really didnt expect that to be the case.
Tragic.
QuantumArtist wrote:
I dont know why I cant talk about BE pets. They're every bit a part of CH, but nobody mentions them to people asking questions. Its sad really. Not to take away from natural pets in any way.
As far as "spam" goes, it may have more to do with either the fact that I'm writing at 4am and theres nobody on to "discuss" with (thus spreading my replies out) or that our once great profession has been reduced to about 10 oversensitive participants on this forum... which is more likely the case. Sorry I really didnt expect that to be the case.
Tragic.
Well the only problem I have with you QA is that you are on Radiant and I am on Kettemoor. You wouldn't happen to have an alt on Kettemoor would you?
I do have analton radiantwho is novice CH. When I am higher lvl there (and have morecredits ) I would be interested in a BE pet or 2. I like both tho mose are wild tames cause after I tame and train them I do get rather attached to them.
Almost all of my Pre-CUBE pets were lost to me cause they had armor and did not covert well.
-Indene-
Nerfmeh wrote:
So does anyone know how to get an adult pet fast or do I have to wait 5 years for it to grow?
Log in at least once every 12 hrs. If it is not growing by the end of the first 48 hrs then it is broken and you need to /bug it and send in a ticket etc
-Indene-
The path to fixing it isn't any mystery either -- slower expansion development, a commitment to quality above all other concerns, a single development 'vision' of the game that is consistently applied across all professions. The only mystery is whether they have an executive with the brains to do it.
Yes its true that:
Pet specials don't work,
All BE pets were neutered by the combat 'upgrade'.
Some pets had their CL changed and now are over 70 and uncallable.
Most Elite pets don't spawn as babies.
Pets dissapear when you try to take 2 or more out.
Pets dissapear in the middle of fighting.
Pets don't follow you after a fight.
Pets don't follow you if you've got 2 or 3 out.
If you try to mount pets right when you take them from your datapad or you sometimes get mounted to the ground.
If your pet is attacked by multiple creatures, he totally ignores your commands to kill one at a time. Instead he'll take a couple bites off each attacker taking as long as possible to kill them before getting incapped.
Wild pets attack at half the speed of BE pets so there is no real point of having the /tame skill.
Pets can't even keep up with someone who is burst running so don't even try getting in a speeder.
After you tell your pet to attack one creature, he won't attack anything else no matter how much you want him to. (The only exception noted above)
Creatures sometimes get stuck in combat mode which makes them completely useless. When this happens, you're just out of luck. You can't use them and you can't store them.
(this is all I can come up with off the top of my head)
O.k. I take it back... You have a point.
Maybe if you take another year off, this list will be taken care of.
Nah... we all know the chances of that happening in a year. If anything, this list will probably double.
Oh well...