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Thread: I utterly defy anyone to explain CH xp!
it will come with time, the best thing for you to do is group with higher lvl ch's on dathomir fighting larger monstors or any planet with high lvl mobs, the trick is send your pet in near the end of the fight; or let the big pets get the aggro then send yours in, if your smaller pet starts to get killed pull him back, for engaging on the mob you'll get the normal full xp for that lvl of pet; if your pet survives.
i can't emphasize how important it is to group for lvling ch. the only way to do it on your own, with no combat profession is just as the above poster stated, with low lvl mobs.
and no there is no official statements, its not really that complicated, you get xp for killing stuff, if you use a low lvl pet on a high lvl mob you get more xp no matter how many you use, thats all there is to it =)
I have climbed the tree a few times and yes, I think I have it pretty much figured out. Con each creature, if it has a red dot, you get great exp, yellow is not bad, white is ok, Dark blue is somewhat ok, light blue is crummy and green is worthless.
If you get a CL 7ish pet in the newbie zones killing Chubas, you get about 100 exp, if you use a CL 10 pet, its more like 85, if you use a CL 14 pet its like 60, CL 20 pet, its like 20, much higher and its 1.
Move that whole skale higher... If you fight Bolle Bols, CL 26ish, with a CL 14 pet, you get like 250.
I was using a CL 14 Kaduu that was BE made, so it was beefed on Kinetic, otherwise the Bolle Bols make that expensive.
If you are using a baby, it is figured at the level it is currently. This is nice because if you have a CL 35 when adult that has ar1 and 60 kinetic and is one day old, you can still get the 100 exp off killing Chubas. He will never get hurt.
So the key is, have your hands full and get exp. If its easy, its worthless
Sadly, thus far, there is just no chance of fighting higher level creatures & getting as much xp as if you had just killed little peeps & frogs the whole time. Sad sad sad. I killed Rancors & I killed dwarf nunas today. The nunas are far more efficient. Pathetic design.
Oddly, I did test out the old "dual xp grabbing critters" thing today & it DOES NOT divide the xp by the number of creatures. Directly contradictory to what SOE keeps telling us. So one big creature vs. another big creature IS worse than two half-as-bigs against a creature equal to them. With a GM against screechers on Endor, I got 600 xp (which seems to be some sort of artificial CAP on that pet BTW). With 2 level 15 critters I got closer to 800, total. It does NOT divide it, it gives a seperate tally of xp per creature & you get both.
Ninja007 wrote:Sadly, thus far, there is just no chance of fighting higher level creatures & getting as much xp as if you had just killed little peeps & frogs the whole time. Sad sad sad. I killed Rancors & I killed dwarf nunas today. The nunas are far more efficient. Pathetic design.
Oddly, I did test out the old "dual xp grabbing critters" thing today & it DOES NOT divide the xp by the number of creatures. Directly contradictory to what SOE keeps telling us. So one big creature vs. another big creature IS worse than two half-as-bigs against a creature equal to them. With a GM against screechers on Endor, I got 600 xp (which seems to be some sort of artificial CAP on that pet BTW). With 2 level 15 critters I got closer to 800, total. It does NOT divide it, it gives a seperate tally of xp per creature & you get both.
Well that would make sense, a GM is CL 35, the 2 CL 15s to gether make CL 30. That's why you're getting more XP per kill with the dual combo. I'll bet if you used a single CL 30 pet you would be nearer the 800 XP mark (though I can't guarantee that, with the way this game works
Ninja007 wrote:
Ok so it's pretty much a given the even SOE don't really understand their own needlessly arcane formulas for a lot of things. Fine. BUT I am trying to get through the neverending grind of CH xp WITHOUT a master combat profession OR a big group to do the killing for me. Is it even possible? Would I just have to fight worrts & rills to get the whole tree?
No one seems to really know how exactly it works, at least SOE has never told us. Some people even get WORSE missions with a pet out than alone. Others get better ones. I get more xp with a weak pet against weaklings than using my best pet against equivalent creatures. Sometimes using a lower level pet agaisnt a stronger foe means more xp...sometimes, less. There is no rhyme or reason. At ANY rate, it's conclusive in one way: it's unintuitive, nonsensical, & stupidly requires lots of guesswork & luck. The best CH are Commandos who use heavy weapons to smoke mega-creatures once their pet gets in one hit. CLEARLY they have decided that CH is a secondary profession at best.
My MAIN question here is that no one knows how multiple pets work w/ xp. I can call up to 2 pets & have max level of pets 35. **edit** would be my best bet?? One level 35 vs. other level 35's? A level 35 against the biggest stuff I can handle? Two level 17's? Against what? 17's...35's...? The Devs have stated that having 2 pets out gives HALF the xp. This was a deliberate nerf to stop the Poke-Wars. YET I hear over & over that 2 pets is the way to go & using one big one is not as fast & THAT'S why I am behind others I see. They claim they did this as recently as a month ago (waaaay after the 2-pets xp machine was supposedly removed).
What's the deal? And does anyone know from an official source or do we have to try to hash it out through guesswork & hearsay?