Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Jedi and Creatures in PvP
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Imspaced
Sat Nov 29, 2003 12:07 am
#1
its roughly 3.5X Dmg modifier
because ill do anywhere from 2.9k-3.5k dmg in PvE.
and to pets in PvE ill do roughly 10-12k dmg.
Joker9125
Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:14 am
#2
Currently Jedi get a huge damage bonus to any creature under 25k HAM,unfourtinately this also applies to pets. The other day I dueledJedi with a few pets and in one AOE attack all 3 took 16k damage while that same attack only did 200 to me. I dont care if it is to a pet 16k damage in PvP should NEVER happen. Can we please ask that the devs fix it so that this mod dosent apply to pets?
spreadsheet
Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:08 am
#3
Wow, that is ridiculas. That really does need to be looked at.
-Elder Medic-
theorb22
Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:43 pm
#4
Good gravy and I thought it was just a lucky hit or something when i was dying!
Message Edited by theorb22 on 02-11-2005 06:43 PM
Iakimo
Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:24 pm
#5
Run this by me again?? That's amazing. I haven't used any pets in PvP for ages. I've been wondering if a pet could be useful when hunting a jedi. Apparently not. But can you give me a more detailed description of the problem? I didn't know about this damage bonus until I saw it in this thread.
Joker9125 wrote:
Currently Jedi get a huge damage bonus to any creature under 25k HAM,unfourtinately this also applies to pets. The other day I dueledJedi with a few pets and in one AOE attack all 3 took 16k damage while that same attack only did 200 to me. I dont care if it is to a pet 16k damage in PvP should NEVER happen. Can we please ask that the devs fix it so that this mod dosent apply to pets?
Joker9125
Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:00 pm
#6
basically if a creature or NPC has a HAM of UNDER 25k the jedi get some insane 20000000000000000000000000X (kidding I dont know the exact number) damage multiplier to all attacks done to it. So an attack that does 200 damage to a player will do like 15k damage to a pet.
theorb22
Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:35 pm
#7
I just did some more PVP today, and the numbers are still the same :/. one piece of junk lightsaber area attack did about a grand total of 25k damage taking into account myself and my 3 pets :/. Of course, the person i was supposed to be fighting didn't want the jedi there or his other friend but....it was still very sad, it was looking to be a good fight, all my pets got their specials off and we were just getting into it when ZWOOSH all pets dead and I had taken only a tiny fraction of damage thanks to synthsteak. That was, without a dought, my most depressing fight ever....i mean it was looking so good, only to instantly end up so......stupid. It was better when I sent a pet after someone and they killed it in 3 hits with a mallet.....at least they had to make an effort to select the pet :/.
Ko-aIri
Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:49 pm
#8
The real problem here is the fact that the 75% damage reduction in PvP doesn't apply to pets to begin with from ANY attacker, Jedi or otherwise. So a hit that does 250 damage to you does 1000 damage to your pet. And the Jedi's damage multiplier just amplifies the problem.
Add the 75% PvP reduction to pets, and I imagine it will bring things back in to balance. It's honestly not just a problem with Jedi attacks, it's ALL attacks.
It's been suggested numerous times in the past but it hasn't been adjusted to date. Hopefully it gets addressed.
Add the 75% PvP reduction to pets, and I imagine it will bring things back in to balance. It's honestly not just a problem with Jedi attacks, it's ALL attacks.
It's been suggested numerous times in the past but it hasn't been adjusted to date. Hopefully it gets addressed.
Imspaced
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:07 am
#9
its roughly 3.5X Dmg modifier
because ill do anywhere from 2.9k-3.5k dmg in PvE.
and to pets in PvE ill do roughly 10-12k dmg.
OldManDog
Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:37 am
#10
Ko-aIri wrote:
The real problem here is the fact that the 75% damage reduction in PvP doesn't apply to pets to begin with from ANY attacker, Jedi or otherwise. So a hit that does 250 damage to you does 1000 damage to your pet. And the Jedi's damage multiplier just amplifies the problem.
It's been suggested numerous times in the past but it hasn't been adjusted to date. Hopefully it gets addressed.
Yes %75 Reduction. This so called Multiplier is just the armour system doing it's calculations...
Sabers are Medium AP > Pets light --> none = Pwned.
***I SAY NO FAIR HOW DARE YOU!?!?! These people played the game through either 10-32 professions to unlock of have leveled through millions of force sensitivity experience & Jedi experience to get their template finished, toughing it through the Jedi TEF and BHs. They work very hard to be skilled at all aspects, they didn't accidently get a Jedi. The CURB is going to very much change the game why start complaining now just tough it out.
Ko-aIri
Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:08 pm
#11
OldManDog wrote:
Ko-aIri wrote:
The real problem here is the fact that the 75% damage reduction in PvP doesn't apply to pets to begin with from ANY attacker, Jedi or otherwise. So a hit that does 250 damage to you does 1000 damage to your pet. And the Jedi's damage multiplier just amplifies the problem.
It's been suggested numerous times in the past but it hasn't been adjusted to date. Hopefully it gets addressed.Yes %75 Reduction. This so called Multiplier is just the armour system doing it's calculations...
Sabers are Medium AP > Pets light --> none = Pwned.
***I SAY NO FAIR HOW DARE YOU!?!?! These people played the game through either 10-32 professions to unlock of have leveled through millions of force sensitivity experience & Jedi experience to get their template finished, toughing it through the Jedi TEF and BHs. They work very hard to be skilled at all aspects, they didn't accidently get a Jedi. The CURB is going to very much change the game why start complaining now just tough it out.
To paraphrase you, I say how dare you take my quote out of context? I said that ALL players need to have the 75% damage reduction apply to CH pets as well, not just Jedi. I have a Dark Jedi Knight that I earned after 25 professions and a 200+ hour leveling grind, so I'm not anti-Jedi by any stretch. The fact is, if someone hits me for 250 damage, that same attack will damage my pet for 1000 damage. That's where the problem with CH and PvP exists. We're rendered ineffective vs. ALL professions because our pets aren't tough enough to stand up to more than a couple hits.
And I am well aware of what the CURB may or may not involve. After all, I'm an alpha tester. This has nothing to do with the CURB, this is about the current game system.
theorb22
Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:15 pm
#12
And furthermore, In this game the argument that you worked forever getting jedi is rendered compleatly invalid because any really good stacker can kill a jedi as I understand in PVP, and since nearly half of all PVPers are stackers, and since our pets can sometimes last 3 or maybe 4 hits against stackers, saying jedi sould be able to kill a pet 2 times over in one weak area attackin PVP controlled by someone who's proffesion takes about 3 times as long to grind as any stacker is compleatly insane.
But don't feel bad, some other jedi came by awhile ago during the whole mind trick thing and made arguments FAR worse and insanse as yours, so don't feel too bad rofl 
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Mujadaddy
Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:26 pm
#13
Don't take this the wrong way, but pets are not useful in pvp. (probably b/c of the lack of 75% DR)
I can kill a tamed kimo in like 3 or 4 seconds with a rifle, just with Strafe 2.
The real problem is that the combat system has ALWAYS been out of whack, otherwise there never would have been a pvp DR.
Hey, I've got a great idea -- lets scrap the whole thing for one big massive Upnerf!
I can kill a tamed kimo in like 3 or 4 seconds with a rifle, just with Strafe 2.
The real problem is that the combat system has ALWAYS been out of whack, otherwise there never would have been a pvp DR.
Hey, I've got a great idea -- lets scrap the whole thing for one big massive Upnerf!
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