Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Creature Handler *TOP 5 ISSUES* (New! September 4, 2005)
Please keep in mind as I said above that soe sgall be revamping xp soon as they have already tried to do. It will happen it's just a matter of when. What you should be asking yourselves is how will this effect us.
It may not efect the petxp at all but considering it's even here to begin with I doubt it. Nows the time to voice and make suggestions on changing/fixing this. I still believe it is flawed and unfaior to the community as a whole. I got bored grinding a CH character I have had for years in under two weeks, I would rather have had real content such as quest added. Bored not frustrated, it's lame lol.
But I guess considering what they have done to dancers, crafters, doctors... that the goal is to make evryone want a jedi and go pvp.
Hi, im new to the CH community. just got MCH for the first time on my alt about 2 weeks ago. I had tried to be CH when i first started approximately 2 years ago but at the time i was doing it, it was insanely difficult to get CH XP so i dropped it after getting to 3223. Now while i do not feel qualified to actually debate any argument posted here, as most of you have been CH for as long as my main has been MCommando (and I certainly dont want you goin to the Commando forums telling us whyour Area DOTs should not be fixed :/ ) so Im mainly posting to list the concerns as I've read them that I agree and some dont agree with but know i dont feel qualified to leave them out becus my opinoin isnt filled yet I only know what ive seen so far (which from certain standpoints makes me wanna cry honestly).
Also I want to note that not all these are profession specific but they do GREATLY affect our profession. Anyway here we go:
1) Something ALOT of people have mentioned, and I agree with as I too have walked planets for hours in search of babies. Where are all the damn random spawns that we used to see when i started? Excuse my language but this is one of a few things that makes me sad. Why is it I know walk 10k acros the surface of Rori (for instance) and dont find a single lair like I used to when i wasnt CH. I remember pre-CU going to rori to solo random spawns just to make enuff XP to get nov TK. Even tho it took awhile only because i was a low level in TK (I was however full temp MCommando/MPistols at the time) did this take awhile. NOT BECAUSE I DIDNT FIND SPAWNS. This is not caused by low population as has been said, and I can prove it. If you goto Mos Eisley on a weekend, when the biggest log ins seem to occur (at least on Bloodfin where i preside
)its almost as bad as MO Dantooine. i get a bit of lag on first load in (yeah im on dial up; after the initial lag however im fine) Now I walked 6 K approximately from ME to Bestine, to see if i could find a Cu Pa Lair. I found one, yes, but only after zig zagging to several different areas of total emptiness in the hopes of finding SOMETHING. Ive never seen these planets so dead. Wow, I've said alot on that. This isnt profession specific but it does affect our profession greatly because there are pets I have to spend hours on training, not because it takes forever to train the pet, but because it takes forever just to find any sort of random spawn what-so-ever. Very sad
I think i've made my point on that though, so i'll move on.
2) Where did Aggro DOTs go? Oh yeah DOTs are busted. Im MCommando so I know this all to well, unfortunately, and this saddens me to no end. In the old days (us major hunting [notice i didnt say grinding i said hunting] fools who enjoy the pleasure of the hunt)(another sad loss to point 1 as well) would constantly hear the word "No we cant hunt that they disease... or they have a real mean Poison" Now its just "Get Bols or Pickets and head to nearest" oh this make me so sad
The only thing anyone is afraid of now is whether they aggro to help each other, whether the spawn count is high, or whether its worth their time. Bleh what a bore! I miss the old Endor Hunting Groups, Dathomir Hunting Groups, etc. etc. I made it a point to always Yell out that im making a group for another planet so people know there is an option to killing bols and pickets which are not the only source of XP in game. Yet my efforts are in vain because no one goes anywhere but Dant still but im getting off topic. I drove to the sarlacc to get my alt his Tat Sarlacc Badge and still immediately got the disease DOT which I was happy to see, at first. I quickly realized however, even though I had the DOT I was taking absolutely no wound damage what-so-ever as disease was intended to do. Very sad, Id like to see this fixed. Oh wait that in no way is detrimental to CH. Well theres a loss of a perfectly good monologue ![]()
3)I dont feel qualified to say anything about this, except I have no problem with it other than the fact that not everyone is a big game hunter like I am, is the xp rate for pets. I wont say anything on this other than hmm...
4) CL of pets is WAY to low and I dont care how many abilities you put on it. A full temp bad ass who does area damage (even if my pets are grouped with me) can take out my pets in one or 2 hits all the while only hitting me. I am not a avid PvPer but do participate in the GCW as well as Guild Wars and I find it fascinating that no one has brought this up. When a CL 80 toon (mostly one thats meant to be bad ass in Def and or Power (aka Damage) hits anything con grey it goes down in 1-5 hits. If said bad ass has a area attack (such as an MBH tank temp or even an MCommando Temp which is properly made such as my main
) all he has to do is areaattack the Player all the while damaging the MCH's pets. The pets WILL go down quick, and I have tested this and mine always do (i understand that most abilities r borked) but my point is... was the point of Abilities to make our pets become greater then there CL is intended or were they meant to justify the nerf to CH. Thats something the DEVs should have asked themselves because it feels right now like they only made this revamp to make CHs feel like they are being looked after but all the while the DEVs really gave them nothing but a dollar bill (Like uncle Bob
) and said dont spend it all in one place. This does sound harsh, and I'm sorry about that. Im not flaming the DEVs im trying to make a point. They really need to make pets at least con green to a CL80, at least con green which is CL72-73 i believe. Anything lower than this in the new system to a CL 80 is only cannon fodder (from what ive seen and I speak also only in PvP altho PvE aint much better as Creatures r no longer the tanks they used to be because of this con grey system I cant use my CL 70 pet on a CL82 without tanking for my pet which seems to negate the purpose). Or are you trying to tell me we should all have CL70 rancors and Graul Maulers. No i cant accept that. Moving on!
5) I have had this annoying problem with my pets not spawning, or my pets staying where they were and when i get to the next lair. I try to store to recall them and no message comes up saying i have to wait longer, it just wont store. I have tested the 0 0 waypoint theory and btw its not true they dont spawn there, at least not for me. When this happens to me all i can do is log out until i am fully out of the world (which is like 10 minutes however i usualy wait 30) then log back in and everything will be fine until it happens again. I did do a /bug report on this btw but I wanted to make this apparent here as it did not seem to bother anyone else, but I may also be one of a few that may not post here that has had this problem IDK.
6) I said i dont feel qualified to say much on these things and yet I feel ive said to much so I need to /bug myself cus Im typing way to much on this but its only because the potential I saw in this game has diminished (which if you ask my friends Im an avid backer of the DEVs when something happens I am fair to giving them a chance) No im not leaving, I love this game. I'll probably be here until theres no one left I dont care I love just hanging out in ME and helping new people out or the thrill of trying to get a baby to go into your datapad only for your mask scent to wear off and the momma's and the papa's realize yer there and hunt you down like the meat bag you are to them
I just wish theyd make some things like they used to be. While I have more to say on that I wont because alot of this somehow got off CH specific necessities so I dont have anymore room to rant on anything else, but I'll leave you with this.
Smile, its just a game and one day the servers are going to go down and one of the greatest ideas for a MMO will be lost, and while we will have some AWESOME memories from it, we will soon realise what retards we were for taking it to seriously.
I hope I didnt waste anyones time I just feel these things had to be said.
Anyway its great to be a part of this community now- as well as Commandos which ive been with for about a year and a few months- and I hope I can stick with it long enough to see it rock again (happy thoughts) ![]()
Message Edited by cornbredx on 09-24-2005 09:13 AM
cornbredx wrote:
Edit: P.S. If anyone actually reads this ill give you a piece of cheese and some silly string
Message Edited by cornbredx on 09-24-2005 09:13 AM
PirateJolly wrote:
Ok, where is my stringy cheese? LOL
*Shares her string cheese with Jolly*
/looks_around
/evil_grin
/sprays Jolly with the remainder of the stringy cheese from the can
I dont rlly believe we need a CL 80 creature because we can of course have another profession so we can attck as well as our creature, I just think they should be able to Tank like they used to cus now if a CL70 attacks a CL 75 or above it either gets killed quick or doesnt hit worth squat. No mater what ability is on it. This is because of the con system in place. Because of the fact that it cons grey to those aggros it hits for what seems to be half of its minimum damage. So my conclusion to this is, what is the purpose of the creature if it cant even hit as hard as a creature that cons green or blue to me? It seems to negate the original purpose of CH which was to have pets to tank for you. Or do the Devs now believe we just want them to cuddle with and enjoy the fact that we can tell em what to do?
I dunno it just irritates me that my pets cant tank because they go down in one hit or they just plain dont hit that hard to begin with. If you look in the combat tab you'll also notice they miss about 50% of the time. Maybe they should just change the con system. I duno if they can though. I know how hard it is to code (well somewhat) I had a Basic Programming class in HS and I wrote a slot machine program that had over a million lines of code including sub routines and such so I know its probably complicated for any change to come into effect when you also consider the networking programming involved which all is way beyond anything ive ever done (and I work on LANs :/) so i dunno.
I just want my pets to be able to hit for a good amount without HAVING to use a Rancor (which i dont honestly even think hits all that hard either in comparison). As far as CL 80, thats not really necessary and WOULD make us way overpowered. Just my thoughts on it though.
I have a Rancor, You are quite correct! Its a shame. Will be interesting to see what happens next.
Regarding Programing, I own a software consulting company and exspect my programers to not go live on a client site,till the software is functioning 100% in a Test Enviroment.
Silly me to exspect the same level of professionalism from others, Like SOE. I know they have more financial resources available than I do.
But of course we write software for hospitals so if ours don't work,people die. It also means that our time constaints to have something ready to go live is much worse than Soe's.It has to be done quickley and correctly. Which is why I consider their excuses lame.
it would help if creatures/droids could be the equal combat level of the Handler when grouped, so that the xp would be correct, i'm a MBH/MCH and struggle still with lvl 80+ BH Missions and getting the right creature xp.
I suggest raising the max CL of some high profile CH creatures to 80 and MCH creature lvl limit to 80 to allow for 1 creature to fit the CL bracket if the above is a no can do completely.
Kilomania
wompdog wrote:
I may have stumbled on to something with fleet foot. I decided to switch from my varactyl to my swoop. One way or another i had both out and got back on the varactyl by accident. I dismounted, remounted my swoop, and because of combat store timer couldn't stor pet yet. My group was leaving so i took off figuring to store and recall pet later. To my surprise the varactyl paced me! I anxiously trained it with fleet foot two before i realized it didn't improve mount speed, so it had ff2. Since then other players with pets i have given them with ff2 have been able to reproduce this as can i whenever i want. (pull out speeder and pet, get on pet, get off pet, get on bike and prepare to be amazed lol)ps. if this is all ff2 does though it's still not worth it,, i want a faster mount lol
Not sure if it's related to this but it seems that when you tame a creature, it gets an equavalent of 0 TN, but untamed it appears they have something like 30-50 TN. Of course, while being mounted, they have "full" TN again.
This could be something relating to that "vehicle workaround".
*hugs Jolly*
The best part is you still think I'm sweet after I sprayed you with stringy cheese
mwuahahaha