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Thread: Petition to alter the Creature Handler XP Grind

goatt_13
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:56 am
#66
- signed



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rainfinder
Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:13 am
#67


/Agree


To much of a grind for certain, needs to be balanced out in some way. The thing I have to say is this about grinding so much. SOE pretty much states if you grind your way to jedi this excuses the mass power a player can obtain going this route. CH is a normal proff and should not be put under these extreme measures just to equal in some to the other normal proffesions. Just doesnt make the mark IMO.



/sign

Message Edited by rainfinder on 09-26-2005 07:14 AM

WarWidow
Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:14 am
#68
The amount of work does not equal balanced power.

There is nothing unique about pets anymore like the old days. Everything is a skin-clone, its an easy way out for SOE to rehash stuff.

So grind that level 70 pet. Grind that 4+ million xp. Oh, you'll be a great hunter, maybe even last a little longer in high level adventures.

But when all is said and done. Your so-called uber level 70 pet will still be a joke among war verse elite stacker doctor templates and alpha glowsticks!

CH will always be a glorified hunter...no more.

Grinding does not equal game content!





Seita: "The Iron Maiden" Loyal Imperial Panzer.
Shadmare: old school Master Creature Handler (semi-retired).

3+ year Scylla veteran (8/03). Vanguard here I come!
Served: LOD/MOD/MODSF/AEDI/DTOS/KV
Katharian
Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:39 am
#69
/signed and bumped



Kalin Kitharian
MBE + random other classes as I see fit thru the months.
If your on eclipse and need a hand or just a new pet to keep you company just ask, I'm more than happy to help where I can.


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Tastok
Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:55 am
#70

/signed


I've been playing on Tempest since day 3 of server. During this time, I never used a macro in any aspect of this game. I always felt that I was paying for this game for the experience and enjoyment of playing....not to have some program play the game for me, so that I could achieve some higher level of game experience. With these changes to the CH profession, I have finally broken and gone to the dark side of macro grinding....I couldn't see any other way to enjoy this game with the limited play time that I have available. SOE has done this profession, game, and customers a disservice by requiring such outrageous levels of grinding for so little benefit.





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Ranger (Lost Due to CU XP Point Reduction)
Master Creature Handler(Lost Due to NGE)
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WarWidow
Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:18 pm
#71
I heard rumblings through the grape vine that players are mailing some of the top gaming magazines about all the bugs and headaches that this game has. Some mail has even been sent to Lucas Arts and the Star Wars fan club. Seems players are trying every avenue they can since SOE refuses to listen when things are incorrect.

What ever works...go for it!

/Salute





Seita: "The Iron Maiden" Loyal Imperial Panzer.
Shadmare: old school Master Creature Handler (semi-retired).

3+ year Scylla veteran (8/03). Vanguard here I come!
Served: LOD/MOD/MODSF/AEDI/DTOS/KV
Snickerdoodle
Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:35 pm
#72
Just saw this thread, but consider it...


/signed



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jopenack
Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:03 pm
#73


People have been emailing and air mailing magazines and lucas over this game for a while, occasionally the bad pr is looked and and responded too unfortunatly anything soe says in response is printed and taken as fact since ole georgie and sony pay mags alot of money for adds,


Don't be fooled Lucas is very much aware of whats going on here and he doesn't care, he's grinding every buck he can while star wars is on peoples minds since the last movie had come out and will be out on dvd. Just around the time of the new expansion lol. George Lucas is just as money grubbing as everyone else or he would have stopped this months ago.

Message Edited by jopenack on 09-27-2005 12:03 AM



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Anobaca
Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:45 am
#74




- I support reverting to & balancing the old combat system


Pround in-game husband to Zareithes Xetteat
cornbredx
Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:46 am
#75

Ever since i came back to the CU (which i actually like) Ive felt myself wondering why thi sgame has become so much more unrealistic. So before i sign this (and I will) I want to bring us back to the old days (well for me this is Feb04 to whatever the date was before CU hit)and corrolating them to now:


1. Off the top of my head Commando sucked and once we got tossed on our back (in PvP and some high end content) we were thru


Now: Commando is decent if you use a completely ranged template, DOTs are useless yet all our weapons are for DOTs, all our weapons now area but the dot on the area is borked, and over all I tend to be more of a Rifleman with a commando backup. Not much different but at least I dont spend all my time on my back so Im still happy with that.


2. Loot. Need I say more?


Now: I miss even getting pointless crap. It seems like if you even loot pointless junk now its a 1 and a million chance (oh yeah wait BHs have loot Drops how could i forget. Oh yeah Because I dont wanna be a BH)


3. Rarity of seeing a player Jedi. I remember meeting a new jedi once about a year and a half ago on Endor. I happened to bump into him and scared the willikers out of him. I pointed out he was the second i had seen and he expressed his sadness in having to hide all the time but also understood this is how it should be.


Now: Jedi are everywhere and while I dont follow those that whine about it this is truly sad because some may or may not remember but the first ever jedi in game (being that it was so secretive) was in a small article in the newspaper about this game. Now everyone knows how, and 75% are trying to get it so they can achieve "end game" Well first off this is an MMORPG so if theres an end game I feel that negates the purpose. Second, I like jedi alot but i play KOTOR and Jedi Academy to get my jedi fix i dont want to be one in this game. But im not here to whine about that, cus I saw this coming when the age of the grind started. Where do you think 45% of those jedi came from haha. They're from the grind age people.


4. Realistic. What happened to this. I remember when I first started one thing I used to be afraid of when fighting high end aggros when incapped wasthem walking up and then the intense music starts and im slain. Use to put me on the edge of my seat. Not to mention Aggro DOTs, creature spawns being everywhere.


Now: AI is comepletely stupid (yeah i know they r "fixing it" and I am not putting down the DEVs but it seems like after the CU nothing gets fixed properly) Did they forget how they made the AI intelligent or can they not figure this out? Aggros should walk up to you to slay you (altho So far the only things that seem to actually DB now r Rancors, Krayts, or Highend Bosses) not just suddenly your dead. I miss Aggro DOTs thats all i can say about those, and creature spawns I think im beginning to understand this. As a community we need to get people off of Dantooine (for gods sake) there are more planets that give exactly the same XP why r u people hunting on Dantooine? Do you have some unhealthy obsession with bols and pickets? I think if people hunted on every planet (like they used to) then this would not be a problem.


5. Now i get to profession specific. CH. I liked the old system however i never got to master on it so i dont know as much about it as you all.

All I know is now: The xp system is rather tedious as I usually only wanna grind for money or FP. My main was done a long time ago and i was happy because i feel this is where the game begins (not ends as so many people have said which is so untrue... if you dont like the content thats here why r u playing... oh yeah unhealthy obsession with bols haha). Now i understand veterans like myself saying that it ends because they have done everything alrdy, but when a 2 month newplayer who is here to grind jedi (i will now and forth-width call themJedi Generation Yhaha) says they want this to achieve end game I cant help but ask, WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THIS GAME? I dont mind the pet XP thing tho, i just think it should either be lowered, or they should get more xp per kill. And no matter what, I will not AFK macro anything. If i ever decided to be an Entertainer (which i wont) i would sit at my computer for several hours a day doing whatever it is entertainers do for xp. AFK Macroing negates the purpose of playing... PLAYING a game.


Wel ive said to much on this, and It saddens me things laways come to this. I dont usually take part but this really is rediculous, our pets arent even able to take on a CL75 and above anymore without me having to tank for my pets. No, that doesnt work for me.


/sign for 1 MCH account and my Main who misses the old days but isnt CH :/

Message Edited by cornbredx on 09-27-2005 06:49 AM



"Like the hand of God I smite thee!"
Colonel Fox-Wolfian Drigger of the Emporers Imperial Army
Master Scout, Master Fencer, Master Pistoleer, Master TK, Master Marksman, Elder Master Commando

(And I wasnt even Grinding Jedi)

Also Corporal Darrt Drigger of the Emprorers Imperial Army
Master Creature Handler/Master Scout/Master Swordsman KIA due to the NGE getting rid of CH, may he rest in Peace

"It just so happens I liked that hand"
Kontessa
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:56 am
#77

Signed!


Kontessa Azure,MCH-Corbantis


Mayor, Usu Enki- Tatooine


Of course they probably will do nothing as usual, or alter it for the worse, but I guess we gotta try!

Kur
Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:13 am
#78




Kitoth wrote:

Unless my full-grown and fully-trained pets become little jedi, the grind is ridiculous. <--LoL Awesome


I feel sorry for Squad Leaders and Rangers. They're next to get Dev "love". I wonder at what cost it will be (in terms of their new grinds)?


I think jedi is the new model for all professions, based on what they're doing. Which is: increase the amount of time people have to play to reach the top, make it as much a chore as possible to keep them from ever getting "to the end" and then being bored. Same level of "power" as any other profession, just 50x longer to get there.


It's just a means to keep people subscribed longer. They know people quit when they no longer have goals or objectives to be met. And for most, finishing a profession is that goal. They do the content along the way, and when they get to the end, they realize they've already done it all.<--DING DING DING!!! GET THE MAN A CIGAR!!!!





I sign this knowing very little will come of it




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