Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Let's Talk About Mounts
Dreetham
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:09 pm
#53
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts? (Pick One)
- Seldom. Perhaps for a change of pace every now and then, but mostly I run or use vehicles
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
- Dewback
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
- Endurance. I'll take a hit inraw speed, as long as I can gallop most of the time
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Let mounts gallop longer and recover from being winded faster
- Let at least some playershave the mount itself fight while riding it
- Let at least some players use special attacks on mounts
- Make more creatures mountable
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
Cu Pa, Bantha
Ghostlion
Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:30 pm
#54
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts? (Pick One)
- Seldom. Perhaps for a change of pace every now and then, but mostly I use vehicles. When I couldn't pull a vehicle, I'd run into a building and pull a mount.
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
- Dewback
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
- Physical appearance
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Make more creatures mountable
- Let at least some (MCH) players use special attacks on mounts
- Let at least some (MCH) playershave the mount itself fight while riding it
- Give at least some mounts vehicle speed, at least when galloping
- If we can't get vehicle speed out of a mount (I've clocked my speeder bike at approx. 35mph) at least let us come close to it.
- Let mounts gallop longer and recover from being winded faster
- Allow the larger mounts to let two people ride them at once.
- Allow us to lend mounts (like befriend) to people so if they don't have one, we can call one for them to ride (Using the lendee's max CL)
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
- Giant Mawgax/Mawgax (!)
- Big Cats (Grand Wrix, Crimson Razor Cat, GSP, etc.
- Elephant Types (Thune Grassland Guardians, Snorbals, Grondas, etc.)
- Rancors (Shoot me, I think it would be neato.
)
- Fliers (Reptillian Fliers, Mantrigues, Giant Peko Pekos (for those of us who still have them
, etc.)
6. (Optional) If you have any mount-related comments or feedback, please feel free to give that here.
Message Edited by Ghostlion on 02-12-2004 08:37 PM
Trayson_Antilles
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:24 am
#55
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts? (Pick One)
- Seldom. Perhaps for a change of pace every now and then, but mostly I run or use vehicles
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
- Carrion Spat
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
- Speed over short distances.
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Give at least some mounts vehicle speed, at least when galloping
- Make more creatures mountable
- Let at least some players use special attacks on mounts
- Let at least some playershave the mount itself fight while riding it
- Let mounts gallop longer and recover from being winded faster
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
- Gurrecks
- Banthas
- Rontos (and cross planetary equivilants)
- Rancors
- Grauls
6. (Optional) If you have any mount-related comments or feedback, please feel free to give that here.
The fact of the matter is that most people who use mounts do so because they can't afford vehicles. Once they get their hands on a vehicle, they no longer use their mounts except on rare occassions. There is no clear advantage to using a mount over that of a vehicle other than the fact that a mount can attack while you're not riding it, but this is so miniscule as to not even be an advantage in the first place. As an MCH I would love nothing more than to ride a mount all the time, but speed differences make this about as desireable as riding my bike to work instead of using my car.
Drachan
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:16 am
#56
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts? (Pick One)
- Seldom. Perhaps for a change of pace every now and then, but mostly I run or use vehicles
(May change when I get a real mount. My old school Kaadu doesn't cut it
)
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
- Kaadu
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
- Endurance. I'll take a hit inraw speed, as long as I can gallop most of the time
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Let mounts gallop longer and recover from being winded faster
- Give at least some mounts vehicle speed, at least when galloping
- Make more creatures mountable
- Other (flying mounts would be great)
- Let at least some playershave the mount itself fight while riding it
- Let at least some players use special attacks on mounts
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
Hmm.. Bantha, Cu-Pa, Ronto, Kimogilla, Peko-Peko
6. (Optional) If you have any mount-related comments or feedback, please feel free to give that here.
It looks really dumb when my Kaadu stands in a 90° angle to a mountain-side while I break my back sitting on it..
Tarnblade
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:30 am
#57
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts? (Pick One)
- Seldom. Perhaps for a change of pace every now and then, but mostly I run or use vehicles
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
Carrion Spat
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
Speed - ( plain and simple, why would i buy a mount or use a mount, when its soooo much slower than a vehickle )
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Give at least some mounts vehicle speed
- Other (write in)
To expand on this, we should have some bird or cat mounts, as these are often able to keep up with bikes when CH get pets to follow them whilst on a Veh.
Mabee this sort of mounts would be CH only or insanely rare.
That way regular veh makers cant start whineing.
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
not sure but albatros would be cool
Lysiria
Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:07 am
#58
Vertexon wrote:
There's a lot of other stuff on our plate, but I would like to get some ideas generated for a "mount request document" to present to the Devs. If you could answer the following questions, I would be most grateful.
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts? (Pick One)
- When fighting. I usually stay mounted and use default attacks from atop the mount.
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
- Dewback
- Carrion Spat
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
- Endurance. I'll take a hit inraw speed, as long as I can gallop most of the time
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Let at least some players use special attacks on mounts
- Let at least some playershave the mount itself fight while riding it
- Give at least some mounts vehicle speed, at least when galloping
- Let mounts gallop longer and recover from being winded faster
- Make more creatures mountable
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
- Any flying mount.
- Cu Pa
- Blurrg
- Grand Wrix
- Gualama
6. (Optional) If you have any mount-related comments or feedback, please feel free to give that here.
If we can't change the current plan of waiting 30 seconds to call any pet, perhaps we could allow mounts (Level 10 and under) to be called anywhere, anytime, without time restrictions.
Tharien
Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:19 pm
#59
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts? (Pick One)
- When fighting. I usually dismount and use the mount as a regular combat pet.
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
- Dewback
- Brackaset
- Kaadu
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
- Combat strength as a regular pet
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Make more creatures mountable
- Give at least some mounts vehicle speed, at least when galloping (Let BE's Determine speed with the base speed determinedby species)
- Let mounts gallop longer and recover from being winded faster (Again, allow BE's to determine stamina with the base determined by the species)
- Let at least some players use special attacks on mounts (How bout some love for the CH community)
- Let at least some players use special attacks on mounts (Cowboys used to shot in all types of variations from the back of a horse. Now using a melee weapon would require a special attack avail only while mounted. i.e. Jousting)
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
- Bantha
- Cats (All cats)
- Cats (All cats)
- Cats (All cats)
- Larger than life animals (Tourtons, Mallocks, etc...)
6. The only time i usually ride my mounts anymore is when hunting solo, or with a group of CH. This was because I (we) hated trowing down a camp before I (we) started fighting to pull pets, and I (we) hated dropping a second camp to move on to pull the car(s) out. With publish 7 allowing for the anytime/anywhere policy for pets and vehicles, the only timeI ever see pulling out my mount again is to balance out my CL cap of 70 (my popular pick is lvl 20 Dewback for crowed control and a prenerf CL 50 Gurreck)
Tharien
Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:24 pm
#60
Edit from earlier post
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
- Make more creatures mountable
- Give at least some mounts vehicle speed, at least when galloping (Let BE's Determine speed with the base speed determinedby species)
- Let mounts gallop longer and recover from being winded faster (Again, allow BE's to determine stamina with the base determined by the species)
- Let at least some playershave the mount itself fight while riding it (How bout some love for the CH community)
- Let at least some players use special attacks on mounts (Cowboys used to shot in all types of variations from the back of a horse. Now using a melee weapon would require a special attack avail only while mounted. i.e. Jousting)
Tharien
Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:33 pm
#61
Edit 1 more time
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
6. Thunderheart
7. Q-3P0
8. Did I mention Cats of all types
9-20. Flying Creatures (they do exist in the universe)
21-Infinity. Cats (All types)
SkyPreacher1
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:12 pm
#62
1. Which best describes how often you use mounts?
Seldom. Perhaps for a change of pace every now and then, but mostly I run or use vehicles
2. Pleasere-order the following mounts in descending order of how often you use them (omit mounts you never use):
1) Dewback
3. What's the single most important quality in a mount to you?
4. Please rank the following design requests in descending order (most important first) of how much they would increase the desirability of mounts in your eyes:
5. Please list the top five creatures you would like to see made mountable
1) Kimogilia, 2) Rancor, 3)Any BE pet, 4) Spiders, 5)Banthas
6. (Optional) If you have any mount-related comments or feedback, please feel free to give that here.
Should be able to store pets in a stable, the young, the old and the rare.
That's it other than give us a pet that is worth the trouble to go find. I fought a rebel general that has more HAM than my level 65 BE razor cat. Go figure.
Vertexon
Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:50 pm
#63
Excellent feedback everyone, thank you. 
I'd liketo start work sometime this weekend on a document of some sort to capture our mount-related thoughts and requests. So if you haven't replied to this thread yet, feel free to do so in the next day or two.
I'd liketo start work sometime this weekend on a document of some sort to capture our mount-related thoughts and requests. So if you haven't replied to this thread yet, feel free to do so in the next day or two.
RhaenWulf
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:21 pm
#64
Just thought I'd add a couple of ideas to the many floating around. Its late, so I didn't read the whole document, and if I repeat something said before then I apologise, but it does vindicate the statement.
Seems to me the most common complaint regarding mounts is that they offer no benefit to the CH. They're slower than vehicles, the monetary cost of running a vehicle is negligable (compare how long it takes to train a mount from baby to full size to how much cash can be earnt in that time, see how long a vehicle can be maintained on that sum). While attack is possible from a mount, its restricted. Mounts cant attack. In a ranged situation, ok this makes some sense, but in a melee why is there a problem there? Make mounts useful in battle for CH. Allow them to attack, allow armor (For goodness sake the medieval ages had armor on their war chargers, why not on a dewback?) If the CH cant use special combat moves from other disciplins in their mounted attack give them new mounted attacks like a powerful charge which ends ina stun of the target, offer some kind of height bonus to aim, give melee weapons a boost in impact. An attack for the creature like rearing up and slamming down on the target, a tail swipe or something.
Mounts offer nothing than the RP aspect at current, and even that is dulled by the lack of original trilogy mounts. Dewback. So why not ronto, tauntaun (cu pa - someone explain to me why the tauntaun is called a cu pa) or other? I am not fond of GunGans and their mounts. How can you have a kaadu and not a tauntaun. Tauntauns were more featured in EP5 than in EP1 yet they weren't a priority. Bah!
Armor, tauntauns, special mounted attacks available only to CH. Customisable tack.
Ariekb
Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:41 am
#65
Tauntaun's are the Hoth version if the Tatooine Cu-pa. it's documented in the spiced up version of eps 4, when they enter mos Iesly just as the Ronto rears you see a Cu-pa with a saddle on it tied to a post in the background.
RhaenWulf wrote:
Mounts offer nothing than the RP aspect at current, and even that is dulled by the lack of original trilogy mounts. Dewback. So why not ronto, tauntaun (cu pa - someone explain to me why the tauntaun is called a cu pa) or other? I am not fond of GunGans and their mounts. How can you have a kaadu and not a tauntaun. Tauntauns were more featured in EP5 than in EP1 yet they weren't a priority. Bah!