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Thread: Most Common Pets at all Tamer levels (detailed)

KageroZaKa
Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:18 pm
#53

ya i noticed that too bain, i updated it and will post it on next update



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HighRoller3K
Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:52 pm
#54

KageroZaka...any reason you haven't listed the Crimson Razor Cat? Maybe becuase it isn't that common?


CL26


8500 HAM


310-320 Damage


Special Attack: Dizzy


Can only remember som of the resists 10% Energy, 50% Heat/Acid/Electricity.




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Crooth
Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:05 pm
#55

Because I was asked, here is the effective HAM for these creatures versus Energy, the most common form when fighting humonoids (either PVE or PVP) - well, except for Pistoleers (likely to do heat or acid) and Bounty Hunters (acid or electrical) and Commandos (heat or blast.)


It should come as no shock, but the best HAM versus Energy (on this list) is the Bloodseeker Mite. There is a bug in the list btw - it shows the Gnarled Rancor as having 100% versus Energy but he doesn't - he "only" has 60 percent.


Mtn Krevol 4889
Rock Beetle 5867
Cowardly Guerrek 4267
Spineflap Handmaiden 3375
Greater Sludge Panther 8000
Grand Wrix 32500
Mutated Khamurrah 15556
Quenker 15000
Graul 24800
Bloodseeker Mite 56667
Mtn Vesp 18750
Kliknik Queen Harvester 22750
Kliknik Defender 20000
Dragonet 21412
Mantrigue Night Stalker 10833
Boar Wolf 9412
Graul Mauler 29846
Mtn Squill 29846
Bile Drenched Quenker 32000
Blood Stained Merek 19000
Revenous Torton 10556
Toxic Merek Battlelord 21600
Gaping Spider Hunter 26250
Delerious Merek Avenger 21000
Gnarled Rancor 52500
Gurreck 32286
Rancor 56500




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KageroZaKa
Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:12 am
#56

try looking at

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=62004&highlight=#M62004



and adding the wookie bonus's on to that list to see where yer at




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timsgta
Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:03 pm
#57

will u pepl please stop talking about mountain krevols alreday!!!!


im telling ya charred krevols are way better i found mine on rori


they have 500 more ham and 40% resist, alot better than a edit mountain kevol


geez



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and i think they are level 15 too




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KageroZaKa
Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:20 pm
#58

and they have no armor, making them much less effective



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Crooth
Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:44 pm
#59




timsgta wrote:

will u pepl please stop talking about mountain krevols alreday!!!!


im telling ya charred krevols are way better i found mine on rori


they have 500 more ham and 40% resist, alot better than a edit mountain kevol


geez


Well, let's see if that is true Timsgta in terms of ability to take damage. The line for each reads:


Mtn Krevol - 2200HAM - Light Armor - 30% Heat & Kenetic, 10% Blast &Energy & Restraint (note typo in the list that indicates kenetic here - it is in fact restraint)


Charred Krevol - 2700HAM - No Armor - 40% Blast & Heat, 20% Kenetic & Energy & Restraint


First note that the Charred Krevol doesn't have 40% to all resists as you make it sound. It has the stats listed above (and I have a screenshot to prove that here.)


Versus Kenetic damage (as done by any melee attack - ie almost all creatures) the effective HAM value for the Mtn Krevol (ie the amount of actual damage it can take, accounting for its armor & resists) is 6285 while the Charred Krevol is 3375. The lack of armor makes the Charred Krevol look like only half the animal of the Mtn Krevol in most PVE combat.


But what about Energy damage - the most common form found when fighting humanoids with guns. The Mtn Krevol is 4888 and the Charred Krevol is 3375. Once again, the Mtn Krevol is better.


In fact there isn't a single type of damage where the Charred Krevol is better than the Mtn Krevol. However, it is possible that the Charred Krevol has a better special attack (maybe a ranged or dizzy or something) where it might be better - I admit I don't know. But I do know why almost nobody mentions it - it just can't take the damage like the Mtn Krevol




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JohnyBGood
Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:00 pm
#60

delerious merek avenger is shown as a 21000 effective ham. In fact vulnerability implies that the creature takes the full damage from the said type - ignoring armor as well . You should err repair your list


ohh and 100% protection implies the mite won't take any damage at all, which is probably not the case but ....




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SioBabble
Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:29 pm
#61






KageroZaKa wrote:
and they have no armor, making them much less effective





Ah, but that right there is the rub.


The charred krevol will take over as numero uno when the much rumored nerf of all armor for non-CH level pets takes place, if it ever does.


Until then, the mountain krevol rules.





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JohnyBGood
Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:36 pm
#62

charred don't have 500 more HAM - same ham and their kinetic protection is 20 VS 30 mountain with or without armor - so for puremob tanking - not talking NPC and players mountain is best non-ch... well for now



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JohnyBGood
Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:29 pm
#63

yep just tamed a BS mite - 70 % energy - hehe my fault I almost never read the whole post so it will take uhmm let me see 50% from armor 1 and then you apply 70% to that - ot that's like 85% reduction which is err 15/100 damage or 3/20 and 8500 ham divided by this... err 56666.666 hehe not bad for a small itsy bitsy mite



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mcb650
Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:13 pm
#64

Anyone else think we need a few more CL50 or above creatures?



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AllfortheWookiee
Thu Oct 02, 2003 5:20 pm
#65

and bump.



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