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Thread: Has something happened to make people NOT want +25 taming cloths?

NlMH
Fri Feb 20, 2004 5:57 pm
#40

You're right, I don't think 25k is much at all to ask for Taming Clothes, especially for +25.Although, I think it benefits MCH's more than Novice CH's.I am by no means rich, but nowadays, money is so transitory and easily had, 25k is a PI$$ in the POT.


Sure, Milk is more easily had than before the patch, but you still need to Aquire the Resource, plus the Services of a Tailor are still required. Time and Money still must be invested in producing +Taming Clothing, as well as other Modifiers.


Unless you're talking BE Pets, Creature Handlers can get their weapons in the wild, for free. Their only investment is time. Every other weapon class profession must spend anywhere from 12k-100k for their weapons, depending on weapon type and its attributes.


I went out hunting and gathered the Materials Required for making +Taming Modifiers to have a BE and Tailor Make them to my specifications. I still ended up paying nearly 40k for the clothing, although they charged me muchless. It was all part of the fun and my appreciation for the importance of their roles in making these possible.


Now I can continue my search for rares with a little more confidence. :-)





"Dogs have masters. Cats have staff" -Anonymous
Knocky
Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:11 pm
#41


25K is the going rate of those Master Tailors who do sell BE enhansed clothing *edit* in my immediate area on Corellia *edit*.


My only question was whether or not something changed to lower demand for it. I sell about 3 pair a day. I do not believe that my price is a deterent. Now that I visit the CH board again I am seeing much anger about the changes made, and the future changes coming. The bugs are a **edit** too.


As for all the highjacking going on.....


Yes my pet runs off if another Mob aggros on it when I am attackinga single one. At that point I hit my /tellpet follow hotkey and Fluffy become my meat shield while I kill off the Mobs. I fully understand that MANY CHers feel that pet should be their primary weapon. This makes them feel that the Devs have nerfed them badly. My way of thinking is that CH is a complement to my Primary weapons skill, that being Swordsman. This makes the Pets running off, irrelevant. Annoying as Hell, yes, but irrelevant. If they wish to run, then I will force them to become nothing more than a shield.


Adapt to what the Devs throw at us. They don't care about your complaints. They WILL code this game the way they want. If it is not too much a deal, they will bend their will a fraction. However, when it comes to CH they will not bend one iota. The Droids are coming and pets have been placed on the backburner. Deal with it, pray they do not further nerf us, or surrender your skills to add them into other areas.


Personally I have given the Devs to the next patch to fix the major bugs before I surrender my skills to go ahead and Master Doc again.

Message Edited by Knocky on 02-20-2004 05:12 PM

Drakforge
Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:22 pm
#42

Well, CH is a dying profession.. for those that have been in it fromt he start i would say now it seems like a waste of points.


I have taming clothes.. they really are neat.. but to spend 25k on them? umm no dont do it!


as far as this guy SomeUseri would have to say i will never buy from someone with such a poor attitude. More power to you if you get people to pay such crazy prices for items of mediocure use. taming clothes will not make or break your game. Personally as a looong time MCH.. i would buy masking clothes and maybe some defence mod clothes.. to survive in todays game.





Been there... Done that..
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Vagrantprodigy
Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:49 pm
#43

I have a set of +16, but since the patch the clothes don't seem to work.



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KargosMcCain
Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:20 pm
#44






Knocky wrote:

Currently I am selling mostly +25 medical clothing. Relatively few of my +25 Taming clothing are being bought.


I am only asking 25000 for them, hell 2 piket missions pay for them. I advertise them on the Trade forum.


/confused


What is going on my fellow CHers? Did the Devs break the taming enansements now that milk flows freely?




Can't find anyone to make them on Starsider, but yes I'd like to get some Taming Clothing sometime.




Ivan/Oaler
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darknacht
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:05 pm
#45

Probably has to do with the fact that most know that milk is now relatively common and they are waiting on the price to settle into a reasonable figure. Your price is reasonable but perhaps they think it will drop a bit more. Maybe you need to advertise more....it used to be that these taming clothes were out of the reach of most people...you need to educate them.
MrHawat
Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:34 pm
#46


I get the feeling that a lot of CH are leaving and taking other proffesions. Hopefully they do an Astomech Stats on it again as it'd be interesting to see what the proffesions look like populations wise now days...


Bingo. All the "Dabblers" left with the previous patch. All the die hards are leaving with this one. The Astrometrics are a little skewed unless the weed out the canceled characters still in the database and the ones that have not been played in a while. Those who stayed, just abandoned their characters and play an alt.
Zarniwooop
Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:09 am
#47

By and large... most CHs polled wouldn't even know such a thing existed. 75% of the player base has at least novice medic. They all know about healing clothes. VERY few CHs are master and really competant (meaning try to understand the class well).



I just found a tailor to make +25s myself the other day after a month of looking.


Pluto9Moon
Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:52 am
#48

Zarni nice nick. But some bad posting. I don't believe I know any incompetent MCH who aren't just hologrinding. Well I take that back there is DeneziB. As a MCH, Master Medic, and up to Master Sniper, I used very little in the line of clothes. Especially when BE clothes for CH were 1-3M. Now I do understand this post is about how cheap everything is now and really there are some great BE's out there.


BUT, for a BE to walk in here and just post something so silly as this or the scoffing at BE pets post is CRAZY.


Heres the real deal. I do not want BE clothes because I live on Dantooine. I hunt on Dantooine. I kill every frenzied graul I see. And yet nothing. Not yet has one stinking Frenzied Graul bothered to spawn. And so what even if it did all i would have is my EGO. I mean lets down to it, I can't really scoff at BE pets. OMG they rock. So tell me what use is rare being rare? So what do I need this? I won't tame anything again unless it is a lesser bol. I do this to give to newbs if I happen to meet one in travelling. So what, it will take me two or three tries on my worst day? Do not get my wrong my dear BE, I am not saying you are useless, just not usable by me.


The BE clothes do not fix my bugs. The BE pets that i useI would not have either if they had not been gifts from the loveliest lady in the game. Even though I had to heal mine more. Even though mine run just as much as the BE. I still loved them. That is my EGO....I did it. It was not skill. But it was timing and patience, and me versus the enviroment not a skill modifier check of +25. SOE has everyone sucked into this "force grouping mantra". I have no problem with the items existing. But I do have problems with me buying my own UBERness. Stat modifying clothes, I say "BAH". I have read a lot of CH posts. Most of us fit the ex-mold of CH as soloist. I do not really care that TKA tanks now. Let them go group somewhere if that is what they want. I could not care less. What I do care about is the ruining of CH.


This modern generation of gamers has been ruined ever since that god forsaken money grabbing Gauntlet came out. Thats mid 80's for you kids. Elf is about to die. Valkyrie is about die. 10 bucks of quarters for 30 minutes of gaming. We buy everything in games now. Clones, Rezzes, Buffs, Stat modifiers. Noone knows the definition of game over anymore. I do. And I am not buying into this garbage. I won't PvP if that is the one repurcussion I must face. I won't buy a buff. I was the only chanter I know in EverQuest to never sell crack one time. I've not asked for any money for pets here. Although people have tipped and I have kept that because I feel they meant it. Those who do not dont offer. I am also the brokest Chanter and CH.


It is post like yours that ruins all CH credibility. If as TH stated (I do not believe anything he said to this point myself) that the CH pet is like a grouped member, then consider you jumped a nest of your choosing. A really nasty nest with agros and ferocious and deathblows everywhere. And your grouped partner was the supposed tank, but got a wild hair and ran off. You for a fact would not group with that person ever again. Most of us real MCH's that do understand the profession, realize we have the option to not group with our pets. Any real incompetence lies in the fact we do not quit. For some deep down reason we do it over and over and over again. We will not die. And for that we are stupid. And we are peeved. And we do not respect BE. What they do just for profit...we on the other end are doing it because we are deeply drawn to the class.


If there are incompetent pet owners out there I assure you they are beginners or non-ch. I keep my MCH title up because it defies the Dev's and TH's own attempts to assinate our profession. RuinedSabre himself as much as admitted that nerfing us 6 months prior to the combat reblance was his and TH's choice and fixing our bugs are not. But I also keep my title up to help as many CH as possible. Even though I do not use BE pets i referred a person just yesterday to seek a BE if he wanted a good HAM but low CL pet.



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