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Thread: Post here if u will be quiting the game if these changes happen

Dodece
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:33 am
#40

/sign


Cancelled my account last night. Suggest fence sitters quit aswell there aint **edit** you can lose. You can always resubscribe the only way to get a pound of flesh with these folks is to take money from them.


NoeNoa
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:35 am
#41

To the Developers,

While I cannot claim that I speak on behalf of the entire community, I do believe that my comments here will reflect much of what most of the veterans of this game feel at the release of the upcoming "game enchancements" information today.

To start off, for those who don't know me, I am a veteran SWG player. I tracked the game prior to release, and pre-ordered the Collector's Edition on the first day. I have played this game since day one. I own three accounts, all of which I have leveled myself. One is a Jedi, the others are non-Jedi characters. Two of those accounts are currently active (for the time being). I served as the Scout Correspondent from July 2003 until February of 2005, being the second longest serving Correspondent in the game. I attended the first Fan-fest in Anaheim (I live in Washington, DC) and I attended the Correspondent Summit in Austin, where I met Julio, Tiggs, and reintroduced myself to many of the rest of the design team that I had met at Fan-fest, including Thunderheart, Keldarin, GreenMarine (no longer with SOE) and many others. I alpha tested Jump-to-Lightspeed, and beta tested Rage of the Wookies and the Trials of Obi-Wan. I do believe that all of these experiences lend significant emphasis and credability to the opinions I want to express here.

I have reviewed the FAQ, as well as Julio's letter to the community. While it took a while to understand the magnitude of what is happening here, I have come to grips with it.

These game changes, in my opinion, represent a serious breach of trust with the community and fail to take into account the efforts that the veterans of this community have made in the game.

It is a slap in the face to announce these changes - changes which may take effect within three weeks or less to the game - ONE DAY after a new expansion that many of us have purchased copies of, some multiple copies of, was released. The dust has not even settled on The Trials of Obi-Wan, and now we are being presented with changes that will completely change the way the game looks, feels and is played. In my mind, this is little better than a virtual bait-and-switch perpetrated on the entire community.

I am well aware of the development process, thanks to my work as a Correspondent. I know that these changes must have been in the pipeline for months, particularly if all of the coding will be completed in less than one months time. The Combat Balance/Upgrade/Revamp that I assisted with and helped to shape in Austin at the Summit and throughout the process took over a year and half to develop, code and complete. Yet this entire process was done in secret, including all of the PR preparations made by Tiggs and the SOE Community Relations staff, and sprung on the community without an inkling two days after the expansion was released.

In real life, I'm a lobbyist, and I've been working in Washington for 10 years. So I've seen a lot of conspiracy theories come and go. And If I were a cynic, I would say that this was a carefully timed announcement, designed to hit the community right after the expansion was released, so that SOE and LEC could have gotten the money for the expansion from as many veterans as possible, hoping that that capital would keep the game going through the massive wave of cancellations from those same veterans when changes of this magnitude were announced. And once all the veterans are gone, marketing could focus on bringing new players to the game, who had no knowledge of the previous two years and wouldn't have a problem with what you've done here. I hope to God that that's just the anger talking here, because if any part of what I've said is just true, it would represent the biggest rip-off of an entire gaming community in the history of the gaming industry.

I feel cheated and ripped off. And I think I speak for a large portion of the community when I say that.

And this is how I feel strictly based on the timing of the announcement. The actual changes you are proposing are worse.

Changes of this magnitude, less than 6 months after changes of a similiar magnitude, make it hard for me to accept that this game will still be Star Wars Galaxies. If anything, these game enchancements seem to be attempting to turn SWG into some kind of amalgamation of World of Warcraft, Planetside and Knights of the Old Republic. This isn't why I play SWG, and isn't why I've stuck with this game for two years.

And while I recognize that we veterans will receive "elder" buffs and status in the game, that's not enough. How do you begin to repay someone for the hundreds and thousands of hours they've spent playing this game, building up credits, skills, guilds, equipment, etc. and then wiping away everything they've accomplished in less than a month? I can't tell you the number of days I've taken off work to play SWG, or ignored a deadline or got an extension on a project just to stay out a bit later in a great XP group. All of that is for naught - you are invalidating most of what I've accomplished in the game in two years and in return, I get a special buff. That's not enough.

Rangers were promised a complete revamp less than a month ago, with outlines and changes that got many of them excited about the game again. Now, Rangers have been removed. The profession that I advocated on behalf of for nearly two years, Scout, is gone. The hours and hours I spent writing and rewriting guides for the community on the profession are now worthless.

And worse than the fact that the changes can't begin to compensate for what I'm losing, you're destroying what has kept most people in this game as long as we've been here - the community.

And its already happening. I recently cancelled my World of Warcraft account (even after the news of their new expansion) to come back to SWG full time, and one of the main reasons I cited was the community. My guild on Bloodfin, which is comprised of approximately 60 players with probably close 150 accounts all-together has almost fallen apart IN THE SPAN OF FIVE HOURS. Just looking through my ventrilo, I see people with comments of "5 accounts cancelled", "3 accounts cancelled", "Anybody want to buy 100 mill credits", "3 Jedi for sale cheap, will take food for trade". These are all veteran gamers, guild leaders, beta testers, the kinds of players that MMO designers listen to and make games specifically for - and they're all unhappy. Not a single person I've spoken to is happy right now.

This entire process is fatally flawed. It's flawed because there have been consistent promises made to this community by the Community Relations staff that major changes to the game would be discussed in the community and that we would have some kind of say over them. There's a reason why there are "In Dev", "In Testing" and "In Concept" forums on these boards. But they weren't used here.

Do you even understand the magnitude of what you're doing? If you don't right now, you will when you get the metrics back on how many accounts were cancelled today.

Stop this process now. Get community feedback. Ignore the focus groups and the exit polls and LISTEN to your community. Focus groups and polling is all well and good - I use it myself. But nothing beats getting out in and amongst the actual people who play this game and hearing what they think about this. Make these changes gradual. Do them a little at a time, so that people can get used to them and integrate them into their playstyle. The game was made in a day, it doesn't need to be remade in a day.

Better yet, don't go forward with the changes at all - save them for Star Wars Galaxies II - The Search for More Money. (I hope you all get the reference).

For the sake of all of us who have put so much into this game, and even for those players who simply log in once in a while, kill a few stormtroopers but pay their $15 a month for it, reconsider these changes and allow the community a chance to respond and contribute to the process.

This is our game. It is our money and it is our free time. Respect us. Give us the opportunity to affect this process in a meaningful, cooperative way. It is the very least that we have earned through our dedication and loyalty to this game.

BRISC RUBAL



If money is all you love, then that's what you'll receive.
Denmha
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:41 am
#42

Off to buy WoW where I can have pets.


The gameplay changes I can take - but they took my pets...that was too much.





Denmha Porter
Master Creature Handler/Master Bounty Hunter - CANCELLED
You can kill your game, but when you killed my pets you went too far.

Denmha - now a dwarf hunter in WoW.
winny
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:48 am
#43

/ sign


/cry


/ shout WHY!!!!!!


darthnadir
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:52 am
#44

/sign



Bad business ethics will be SOE's downfall.


Doing business with SOE will be Lucas' arts downfall.


See you guys in another virtual reality soon....





GOR'RAWLLA
sys8000
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:53 am
#45

/sign



GAME OVER 3 accounts canceled!
Newbomb
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:58 am
#46

CH is the only profession I've always played.

If SOE takes my pets, I'll take back my accounts.



Carcharadon, Animal Hippie (CCNJ)
Master Creature Handler, Master TKA, Ex-Master Pikeman, Ex-Master Swordsman, Ex-Master Fencer, RSF Ace


"its as if i heard a million pets cry out in terror...and they were suddenly silenced...i feel a great disturbance in the force"

We're the few, the proud, the Creature Handlers.
> Creature Handler Memorial at -1419 283 Mos Mesric, Tatooine, Kettemoor

CritterControl
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:59 am
#47

/sign




Oceas Evenstar


Master Creature Handler


sherriffjustice
Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:05 am
#48

The bufordtj curse continues. I became a MCH December of 03, Finally got my baby bull prior to the cu and of course now that I have worked my pets to where I want them this. I don't know what I ever did to soe to deserve this but they just saved me $15 a month. Does anyone think SOE = Sith online Entertainment. We will give you hope and decieve you with empty promises only to turn you to what we want. If this goes through the fatest wookie on wanderhome will be no more.


/sign





bufordtj
MCH
"Can't you see, I'm in high speed pursuit"
Skorpios
Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:27 am
#49

I was a former MCH and working one of my alts to MCH slowly. I think removing this profession is a big mistake and a big loss for the game. The fact is the new game will basicly be a forever on Battlefront that you pay for monthly.

Prob will be finding other things to do now.

/sign



Skorpios

Tristis
Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:36 am
#50

I'm surely gone.



Tristis
MBH/MCH - Valcyn
winny
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:44 am
#51

Good By SWG
Dariane_Kamutsovy
Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:07 pm
#52

/sign


I was having fun, even tho the pet xp grind is almost impossible. Bought ToOW just to get the necklace as well... Would be so good to tame higher level pets... I even did extend my account for half a year


Then this slap, no, punch, no kick in my face.


I've cancelled my account.

Unless things will be changed drastically, this will be the end of the line!



Dariane Kamutsovy - Human MScout/MRanger/MCH/FS-Survivalist[FarStar]
EaveP Stone - Human MArtisan/MDE/MMerchant/Crafting Mastery [Infinity]
Inerva Men'es - Twi'lek MEntertainer/MID/MDancer/MMusician [Corbantis]
Tiwea Omy - Zabrak TKM/Jedi Padawan, ex MSmuggler [Chimaera]
Lyyywarraliak - Wookiee BE/Tailor [Chimaera]

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