Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Clarification Please
Jutewr
Fri May 13, 2005 3:19 pm
#27
As I recall, you cannot operate any of your vendors (that includes placing new items on them) unless you have the skill to have that many vendors.
And I don't think it matter if it's an NPC or terminal vendor once you place it.
Atan
Fri May 13, 2005 4:29 pm
#28
The only way i can imagine to set up a permanent "Actor" is to use a fresh created one, place it but dont initialize it. downside would be that you dont get to put clothing onto him, enable ad-barkingand that you can never place another one without deleting ot initializingthis one.
(yes, you would need to get multiple people to supply you with the NPCs, everyone can only place one)
Vaylon_SWG
Fri May 13, 2005 8:04 pm
#29
interesting theory, but since empty vendors get deleted eventually and this would technically be empty, i wouldnt be surprised to see it go poof someday
we just dont know i suppose
Jutewr
Fri May 13, 2005 8:41 pm
#30
GadonThek wrote:
So if all of us respeced into Merchant and dropped a single, uninitialised vendor each, that would mean we could all drop the skills entirely and we wouldnt need to pay maintenance/restock them, and they would still persist after we dropped the skills?
No, they would vanish eventually from lack of maintenance and/or lack of items for sale. You also would not be able to put any new items up for sale.
Atan
Fri May 13, 2005 11:07 pm
#31
Unless they changed something recently uninitialized vendor Dont poof! We had a "secutity" Vendor in our Mall that wasnt initialized and id didnt poof for Month. They can hardly run out of maintenance (because they never got them and there is no way to pay them) and running empty isnt a problem either (because they where never really running).
All i can say is, out Mall Vendor didnt poof for several month and the only way to get rid of it was re-deeding the Mall (due to the owner leaving).
It is possible though that it was a zoning issue that it wasnt initialized (iirc there was a bug that a vendor couldat some time be initialised and running but if you came back at a later date it had gone back to un-initialised)
You have a bigger chance trying it this way than with setting up your own vendor fleet, as they poof for 100% sure.
GadonThek
Sat May 14, 2005 2:20 am
#32
Ok, so another question: If I go up to Hiring 4 to have the full selection, only place a single vendor, and then drop skills all the way down to Business 3, will I still be able to use that vendor fully(with the small 100 item limit of course), or will it not allow me to pay maint/restock because it it's an NPC and not a droid/terminal?
Pappi
Sat May 14, 2005 2:51 am
#33
Atan wrote:Unless they changed something recently uninitialized vendor Dont poof! We had a "secutity" Vendor in our Mall that wasnt initialized and id didnt poof for Month. They can hardly run out of maintenance (because they never got them and there is no way to pay them) and running empty isnt a problem either (because they where never really running).All i can say is, out Mall Vendor didnt poof for several month and the only way to get rid of it was re-deeding the Mall (due to the owner leaving).It is possible though that it was a zoning issue that it wasnt initialized (iirc there was a bug that a vendor could at some time be initialised and running but if you came back at a later date it had gone back to un-initialised)You have a bigger chance trying it this way than with setting up your own vendor fleet, as they poof for 100% sure.
as far as I know, now you can only have 1 uninitialized vendor (it won't let you create more), and obviously the vendor cannot ad bark.
Atan
Sat May 14, 2005 3:18 am
#34
GadonThek wrote:
Ok, so another question: If I go up to Hiring 4 to have the full selection, only place a single vendor, and then drop skills all the way down to Business 3, will I still be able to use that vendor fully(with the small 100 item limit of course), or will it not allow me to pay maint/restock because it it's an NPC and not a droid/terminal?
Currently there is no check about the Vendor appearance, it would work without problems. But nobody knows if this might get changed at some point in the future.
GadonThek
Sat May 14, 2005 6:54 am
#35
Ok guys, thanks for all your help. We'll just have to make do with a single wookiee slave until I start my bar job this summer and get an alt account 
Jutewr
Sat May 14, 2005 8:52 am
#36
Atan wrote:
Unless they changed something recently uninitialized vendor Dont poof! We had a "secutity" Vendor in our Mall that wasnt initialized and id didnt poof for Month. They can hardly run out of maintenance (because they never got them and there is no way to pay them) and running empty isnt a problem either (because they where never really running).
All i can say is, out Mall Vendor didnt poof for several month and the only way to get rid of it was re-deeding the Mall (due to the owner leaving).
It is possible though that it was a zoning issue that it wasnt initialized (iirc there was a bug that a vendor couldat some time be initialised and running but if you came back at a later date it had gone back to un-initialised)
You have a bigger chance trying it this way than with setting up your own vendor fleet, as they poof for 100% sure.
This would work, except you can only be "creating" one vendor at a time. If you place a vendor without initializing it, you will not be able to create any new vendors until you initialize the first one.
flipnitch
Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:34 pm
#37
I was told elemental is still not working. So i did a lil test, nothing to indepth, this is what i got.
duelinga char with no armor on, and no weapon equiped.
health was at 2380
using saber hit, this is what the combat que reported( yes i know the que was bugged showing elemental before)
you hit for 640 ( 462 energy 178 acid)
i incapped the character in 4 hits.
462 x4 = 1848
so isnt it true that id not be able to incap a 2380 in 4 hits if i was only doing the 462 damage?
any clarification would be helpful, thx in advance
snipaho
Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:37 pm
#38
To properly test Elemental damage, hit the player and note how much health they lost. Then compare that with the combat log. If only the energy damage was taken from the player, elemental is not working. If the energy + elemental was taken off, then you know it worked. Should have the detailed combat logs on for the test.
Message Edited by snipaho on 06-30-2005 03:37 PM
Nubeus
Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:38 pm
#39
Elemental works fine for me... every time I log on I take all crystals and pearls out of my unequipped saber and put them back it, color crystal being the last... not sure if that makes the difference or I'm just being silly
I only tested it in PvE though..
Message Edited by Nubeus on 06-30-2005 02:39 PM