Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Special Mount Poll
TrandoshanDroidTech
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:09 pm
#27
I agree, while pet pathing has certainly improved (the fix for NPCs and creatures to go around obstacles helped), even though a minor warping bug (compared to the major warping stuff that happened the last time this was attempted) was introduced, but it should be easily fixable. So instead iof introducing more mounts which are nearly useless, introduce more perks and abilities that'll make CH and MCH worth it.
Pluto9Moon
Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:39 pm
#28
IF mobs can go through stuff to get to me why do i still get stuck on trees and eaten if I go AFK while following someone on Dath? I want an AI solution for player characters. It hardly seems fair mobs go through walls and Players cannot. It was the biggest reason I quit EQ. When the mob in the next room comes through because AOE spells went off but there was no solid border to prevent it. They should make pets get stuck behind stuff but prevent firing through harvesters.
meroc
Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:10 am
#29
A: No, not everyone (See point B).
B: Yes, CH, unless the Dev's have a change of heart on their philosophy of CH combat wise, needs some sort of unique "coolness" about it.
C: Not sure if it should be a Master perk. It'd depend on what themount was. A Rancor should be MCH, an easy to get flyier model could be available to CH lower down the tree a bit...
Vertexon wrote:
I'm working on writing a document to explain the current and desired direction of Mounts in SWG (largely using feedback from the forum and from my "Let's Talk About Mounts" thread from a while back).
Hypothetically speaking,let's saythe Devs introduced a real awesome new mount (flier, cat, kliknik, whatever). Would you...
(A) Want everyone to be able to get one, so there would be a market for selling to non-CHs
(B) Want to keep it as a CH-only perk
(C) Want to keep it as a high level/Master CH only perk
This is just hypothetical, to help me with my writing. No developer intentions regarding mounts should be inferred.
Hasara
Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:06 am
#30
I agree with a few other people that if the devs were to actually give a hoot about the CH profession, they should:
First, fix the existing bugs.
Second,unlock some of the extinct / too rare baby spawns.
Third, work on a possible CH-only mount idea.
What good are new mounts if they are bugged like crazy?
However...doing new mounts would fix right into the SOE ideal. They'd rather add new expansions and content than fix something that's already in place. So it wouldn't surprise me if they ignore the bugs, ignore extinct spawns, and just add more bugs in the form of additional mounts.
*sigh*
LecheHombre
Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:24 am
#31
I'd like to see some mounts that are CH only, or even MCH only. But, there would need to be a *reason* to use them over other mounts.
Speed comes to mind, so I'd be happy to have a gurreck/wrix/GSP be mountable. These would be roughly as fast as an X34 (current cats can keep up with one). They would have to slow down to "battle speed" if the rider is attacking to prevent kiting; but that is already coded in if you believe the message.
Another option would be to have a mountable pet with a ranged attack, that could attack things while you are riding it. Be pretty cool to ride a giant quenker or something, and have it be spitting at things while you are shooting them.
In a bit of a different direction from the poll topic, I'd really like to see MCH get a "mounted warrior" skill, allowing them to use special attacks while riding a mount. I can't really see that this would be a very imbalancing skill, as long as the pets slow to standard foot-walking speed whenever the rider is fighting. I'd love to take on the role of mounted cavalry in PvE or PvP...
Speed comes to mind, so I'd be happy to have a gurreck/wrix/GSP be mountable. These would be roughly as fast as an X34 (current cats can keep up with one). They would have to slow down to "battle speed" if the rider is attacking to prevent kiting; but that is already coded in if you believe the message.
Another option would be to have a mountable pet with a ranged attack, that could attack things while you are riding it. Be pretty cool to ride a giant quenker or something, and have it be spitting at things while you are shooting them.
In a bit of a different direction from the poll topic, I'd really like to see MCH get a "mounted warrior" skill, allowing them to use special attacks while riding a mount. I can't really see that this would be a very imbalancing skill, as long as the pets slow to standard foot-walking speed whenever the rider is fighting. I'd love to take on the role of mounted cavalry in PvE or PvP...
Barb-Wire
Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:35 am
#32
my vote is to get the existing CH bugs fixed. im tired of getting "content" and most of the original stuff STILL not working correctly.
1. fix pet auto store.
2. fix warping while dismounting a pet. (will also fix vehicle warp.)
do those two things FIRST, then talk about mounts.
1. fix pet auto store.
2. fix warping while dismounting a pet. (will also fix vehicle warp.)
do those two things FIRST, then talk about mounts.
Kietharr_Hekar
Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:47 am
#33
Heh, C would be my vote, i'd like a rancor mount, a flyer and a cat (cats are FAST, would actually be a worthwhile mount)
LecheHombre
Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:16 am
#34
Barb-Wire wrote:
my vote is to get the existing CH bugs fixed. im tired of getting "content" and most of the original stuff STILL not working correctly.
1. fix pet auto store.
2. fix warping while dismounting a pet. (will also fix vehicle warp.)
...
Don't forget the current "lobotomized" status of mounts... I'd like to see that one fixed.
Tycalibur
Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:20 am
#35
Flier wire-frame types (Reptilian Fliers, Gleaming Lantern Birds, etc), give them as an MCH-ONLY perk.
Barb-Wire
Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:25 am
#36
LecheHombre wrote:
Barb-Wire wrote:
my vote is to get the existing CH bugs fixed. im tired of getting "content" and most of the original stuff STILL not working correctly.
1. fix pet auto store.
2. fix warping while dismounting a pet. (will also fix vehicle warp.)
...
Don't forget the current "lobotomized" status of mounts... I'd like to see that one fixed.
ya forgot that one thanks.
actually used my rhoa kwi packleader in PVP and it was the deciding factor in combat. without it the fight was just an ongoing stalemate.
Klatt
Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:32 am
#37
All of the above, I think there should be really good MCH mount, CH mount and non-CH mount. Does it make sense that any should suck, or that they should all suck as they now do? Why do we need to make sweeping compromises just to get something in this game that works the way it should?
My thought for mounts is they should be the choice for harsh environments over vehicles. Planets like Tatoinne should have a big hit to vehicle maintainence because of the heat/sand etc.
My thought for mounts is they should be the choice for harsh environments over vehicles. Planets like Tatoinne should have a big hit to vehicle maintainence because of the heat/sand etc.
bobafettc3po
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:14 am
#38
i want rancors to be mountable for master CH lol, the fat guy in jabba's palace rides his rancor sometimes ![]()
blastcypher
Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:12 am
#39
(A) Want everyone to be able to get one, so there would be a market for selling to non-CHs
I don't think everyone needs a mount for travel, with our current speeders and the upcoming reduction in shuttle times the slower paced mounts will be even more unuseful. What I do think would help would be mounts that could carry storage containers,and NPC's. These special mounts would be made available for non ch's. A non mountable mount by players - only NPC's and storage containers. These mounts would hold loot, deeds, weapons, armor, etc. Coolness effect for ch? No. Economy? Yes.
(B) Want to keep it as a CH-only perk
No. We just need mount content. Herding missions, trapping missions, maybe a mount invasion into an Imperial ran city where the govenor could hire Ch's to lead (25) mounts out for a special reward; maybe a unique mount to that planet. Which leads to (C)
(C) Want to keep it as a high level/Master CH only perk
Coolness effect is great; I'm a big fan of it. And I love the idea of a MCH mount!
Bring on my Flying Throne!