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Thread: NEW Creature Data from TESTCENTER (Rebalanced Statistics)

Sooty
Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:33 am
#27

Hmm - are these supposed to be different from the first set of 'new' stats we saw, or is this just a new list with things pulled together?


I.e. is there any evidence yet that there has been any movement on stats for certain creatures in response to CH opinion.

ufo-beefcake
Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:36 pm
#28

Does anyone know what will happen to current Arcane Webmasters in the datapad? Will they be nerfed to light armor? Or will the light armor only apply to new babies?



Thanks,


A concerned MCH

AtPlay
Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:35 pm
#29



Android21 wrote:
Any news on a CH Kimogila? It's the only reason I haven't dropped Master yet, because I hope we can use them.




The kimo will be a "shell," that is, it wont have the stats as a wild Kimogila. Basically, all of the new BEd pets will just be shells, and their stats, resistances, attacks, and specials will depend solely on the materials used in their creation.



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Ko-aIri
Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:42 pm
#30


TouYuan wrote:


Ko-aIri wrote:
NEW BABIES/RETURNING EXTINCTS

Mantigrue Reaper (CONFIRMED by Tal-N)
Merek Harvesters (CONFIRMED by Tal-N)


Really? I have spent close to 100 hours now killing lairs for both these creatures and have yet to see a baby of either.. someone has a screen shot of these to back this up?






Hey TouYuan,

I don't have the screens myself, but this came from Tal-N, who I consider to be a reliable source of information (his reputation seems very good on the boards. Here is exactly what he wrote, from the thread found here:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=131152&page=7

Here's his post:


Tal-N wrote:
  • Not sure if this has been covered but I found out that Mantigrue screechers are now tamable, their babies aren't too common though. They're CL55 and by the looks of it they'll ideal for PvP since they have a broad stretch of resistances.
  • 35% energy / kinetic
  • 10% everything else
  • vulnerable to electricity
  • light amour
  • 12,000 HAM

.. oh and there's also the Festering Squill from Endor which has fairly common babies and is quite clearly focussed for PvE, check out these stats and all for under CL30 (CL29 to be exact )

  • 40% kinetic / energy
  • 50% acid
  • 15% blast / restraint / cold / electricity
  • vulnerable stun & heat
  • non agressive (yeah thats a nice bonus)
  • 7000 HAM

... the merek harvesters are nice now, CL55 though. They still have babies too.

  • 75% kinetic
  • 10% blast / restraint / heat / cold / acid
  • vulnerable energy / stun / electricity
  • light armor
  • 12,000 HAM

... oh and if you want a god-like PvE pet, i'd recommand the Mantigrue Reaper who's babies are reasonably common too. This sucker is CL45.

  • 40% kinetic / energy
  • 70% blast / cold / electricity / acid / stun
  • light armor
  • 11,500 HAM






You'll have to ask him for sure, but it seems he is confident these babies spawn, I was taking people's claims at face value for the most part since it seemed everyone was being constructive and honest, so I truly hope he is correct. We still have no confirmation of Frenzied Grauls spawning babies, which is sad. But I suppose I'll be dragging my BE off to sample Frenzied Grauls and make me a Frenzied Kimogila...



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Cirin_
Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:44 pm
#31






Sooty wrote:

I.e. is there any evidence yet that there has been any movement on stats for certain creatures in response to CH opinion.







If you think the devs honestly give a rats ass about CH opinion then you're clearly naive. The creature changes aren't aimed at CH, yes we take the brunt of the hit right now, but as it states in the whole revised combat post made by TH this is just the first step towards the "new system".



I would be severely amazed if they change ANYTHING based on CH opinion and would nearly bet that they don't. The thread was a great idea by Vertex, but mainly serves as a means to help qualm the already outraged CH community. Other than that it's pretty much useless.




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Oakk
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:42 pm
#32

The new changes proposed will be accross the board. The creature changes wont be so bad when the HAM change goes in. People will no longer be able to just spam the best special they have over and over until your pet and or you are dead. We get a nice mix of pets added back, and we can once again do what we enjoy..Roam planets looking for that rare CL51+pet to tame.



Thanks for the pet updates, I to am looking foward to commanding that disease attack from the Mantigrue. Weeee!!




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elgwapoka
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:44 pm
#33

When are these changes to our pets supposed to be taking place?



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AtPlay
Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:08 pm
#34



Cirin_ wrote:

If you think the devs honestly give a rats ass about CH opinion then you're clearly naive. The creature changes aren't aimed at CH, yes we take the brunt of the hit right now, but as it states in the whole revised combat post made by TH this is just the first step towards the "new system".

I would be severely amazed if they change ANYTHING based on CH opinion and would nearly bet that they don't. The thread was a great idea by Vertex, but mainly serves as a means to help qualm the already outraged CH community. Other than that it's pretty much useless.






There are quite a few instances where the Devs listened to our opinions. The first was that they planned on giving us only 60 cls. After the CH community expressed our "displeasure" they raised it back up to 70. Big deal, they gave us what we already had (I like to look at it as they didnt take anything away.) There were also a few commands they planned on taking away (the Friend and Formations). Again, the CH community got them back. Same thing with the 2nd pet at Managment 3 and 3rd pet at Master. Again, these are all things they were going to take away, but we got them back (and yes, Im extremely happy they didnt get taken away.)

What about the new commands that allow us to control the specials and order our pets to do ranged attacks? How about the bigger pet storage?

I still say that they didnt nerf the CHs, they nerfed everyone else in the game. MCH is, and will retain, the title of the best solo class.



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CrollBothanBattleBunny
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:42 pm
#35

I dunno, Tal-N is A BE and as we all know they are sneeky evil beings who hide in closets and steal your underpants.



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CrollBothanBattleBunny
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:43 pm
#36

Wait, No, Thats an underpants gnome sorry.



Tal-N is the BE Correspondent, Therefor he must be an evil underpants stealing bastid as above....Wait....**edit**....




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RonninOtnemem
Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:20 pm
#37






CrollBothanBattleBunny wrote:

Tal-N is the BE Correspondent, Therefor he must be an evil underpants stealing bastid as above....Wait....**edit**....






Actually, Talthazar is the BE correspondent. Tal-N just happens to be very helpful in both the CH and BE forums.


As for the evil underpants stealing... person... I think the underpants decayed to death and vanished




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TivoTenook
Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:07 am
#38

i finally made a character on Testcenter and heres some pets i went out and got stats for (sry for the missing stats, but i am only novice scout):



  • ravenous torton - 9k ham, NO armor (bah!), 80% stun, 45% electric/acid, 20% kinetic/energy/blast/restraint

  • dragonet- 9.3k ham, no armor, 40% energy, 25% kinetic, 15% blast/restraint/heat/cold/acid

  • giant veermok - 6.5k ham, no armor, 45% cold, 25% kinetic, 20% energy, 10% blast/restraint/electric

  • plains hunter - 9k ham, no armor, 5% acid, 20% kinetic/energy/blast/restraint/stun/heat/cold/electric

  • rogue fambaa - 9.8k ham, no armor, 60% cold/electric, 25% kinetic/energy/blast/restraint/stun/heat

  • giant peko peko - 6.5k ham, no armor, 50% blast/electric, 25% energy, 10% kinetic/restraint

  • voritor dasher - 9.7k ham, no armor, 20% kinetic/blast/restraint/stun

  • grassland voritor tracker - 10.2k ham, no armor, 65% kinetic/energy, 30% blast/restraint/heat/cold/stun/electric

  • vexed voritor lizard - 13.4k ham, light armor, 35% kinetic, 5% blast/restraint/heat/stun/acid



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TivoTenook
Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:09 am
#39

by the way, these are only stats...not baby confirmations! keep that in mind



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