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Thread: Vert, can you have them make pets tank again
Scoooter wrote:
CH is a tanking profession role and it cannot fill its profession role plain and simple. The hate system needs tweaked.
Nice work around using smuggler, but in your case the pet did not tank. You stopped the mob from moving lol not the pet. You could have easily snared it without using the pet. When they fix root and such to break on damage like they are supposed to you won't be in great shape
Joker9125 wrote:
Scoooter wrote:
CH is a tanking profession role and it cannot fill its profession role plain and simple. The hate system needs tweaked.
Nice work around using smuggler, but in your case the pet did not tank. You stopped the mob from moving lol not the pet. You could have easily snared it without using the pet. When they fix root and such to break on damage like they are supposed to you won't be in great shape
I say this again
Tanking is one of the aspects CH is supposed to be able to do. CH is actually supposed to be able to fufill the roles of crowd control, damage dealing, AND tanking depending on the pet they have out at the moment. However the level of pet specialization this will require is not currently possible so we are going to have to wait on a revamp to be COMPLETELY balanced for the CU
No as paying customers we do not have to choose to wait for a revsamp to become useful.
Look at the combat schematic. If I have a tanking pet out it should tank.
Start quoting some dev's so we can believe you.
You forget I know you and your mentaility very well joker. You do not know as much as you think you do.
If you want to sit by and hope for a revamp not knowing when it will be considered or comeyou just do that. I for one will make sure the issues are known to our correspondant and make it so that we have a playable profession.
According to the combat schematic our profession has an emphisis on tanking and the current hate system does not allow that. If a revamp comes it comes but they can fix things in the mean time. The hate system can be tweaked to allow our pets that should be able to tank to tank.
The CU represents a grouping system and we have to be able to being cards to the table that work.
Message Edited by Scoooter on 05-01-2005 10:50 PM
Scoooter wrote:
No as paying customers we do not have to choose to wait for a revsamp to become useful.
If the devs say we have to wait thenwe have to wait. Their is absolutely nothing any of us can do about that.
Look at the combat schematic. If I have a tanking pet out it should tank.
Completely correct, but could you please tell me what defines a tanking pet post CU? I would assume that would be a pet with the capabiality of holding aggro,however as you yourself have said (or at least implied) those pets do not exist. Yet....
Start quoting some dev's so we can believe you.
What information do you want a dev quote of? If your reffering to the revamp I will not quote those sources because they are not public.
You forget I know you and your mentaility very well joker. You do not know as much as you think you do.
You know absolutely nothing about me.
If you want to sit by and hope you just do that. I for one will make sure the issues are known to our correspondant and make it so that we have a playable profession.
I am not sitting by and waiting, however I am not ranting and demanding as others are either.
According to the combat schematic our profession has an emphisis on tanking and the current hate system does not allow that. If a revamp comes it comes but they can fix things in the mean time. The hate system can be tweaked.
According to combat schematic we are directly between the roles of crowd control, damage dealing, AND tanking. I have yet to see a dev post or anything else to that effect in the CU documents that says we have an emphisison tanking.
Joker9125 wrote:
Scoooter wrote:
No as paying customers we do not have to choose to wait for a revsamp to become useful.
If the devs say we have to wait thenwe have to wait. Their is absolutely nothing any of us can do about that.
Look at the combat schematic. If I have a tanking pet out it should tank.
Completely correct, but could you please tell me what defines a tanking pet post CU? I would assume that would be a pet with the capabiality of holding aggro,however as you yourself have said (or at least implied) those pets do not exist. Yet....
Start quoting some dev's so we can believe you.
What information do you want a dev quote of? If your reffering to the revamp I will not quote those sources because they are not public.
You forget I know you and your mentaility very well joker. You do not know as much as you think you do.
You know absolutely nothing about me.
If you want to sit by and hope you just do that. I for one will make sure the issues are known to our correspondant and make it so that we have a playable profession.
I am not sitting by and waiting, however I am not ranting and demanding as others are either.
According to the combat schematic our profession has an emphisis on tanking and the current hate system does not allow that. If a revamp comes it comes but they can fix things in the mean time. The hate system can be tweaked.
According to combat schematic we are directly between the roles of crowd control, damage dealing, AND tanking. I have yet to see a dev post or anything else to that effect in the CU documents that says we have an emphisison tanking.
Oh yes I do know you. I have seen many clashes between how you play this game with others. If you look we are on the same server. I have seen for my own eyes what kind of a person you can be and what little respect you have for others.
If you are going to stand in the way of people trying to bring issues to their correspondant and quote "non public" sources go ahead.
If you want to imply that new pets will be coming that hold aggro just go ahead.
If the dev's choose not to impart knowledge that there is a revamp coming or what is planned why should we believe you "un named - non public sources"
In the mean time if I choose to work with the correspondant and the community to get our profession playable what is it to you.
If there is a mythical revamp we can still get patches to fix what they brok in the CU in the mean time.
We can either fight for our professionor lay down. Lay down if you want to nut I won't.
Message Edited by Scoooter on 05-01-2005 11:24 PM
Scoooter wrote:
Scoooter wrote:
Oh yes I do know you. I have seen many clashes between how you play this game with others. If you look we are on the same server. I have seen for my own eyes what kind of a person you can be and what little respect you have for others.
Are you still mad because I blew up your turrets? Get over it already.
If you are going to stand in the way of people trying to bring issues to their correspondant and quote "non public" sources go ahead.
Bringing issues to the correspondant and "demanding" that the correspondant "make" the developers do anything are two different things.
If you want to imply that new pets will be coming that hold aggro just go ahead.
I'm not implying anything. Im stating that changes are going to "have" to happen to our profession for it to be able to do the "jobs" it is intended to do.
If the dev's choose not to impart knowledge that there is a revamp coming or what is planned why should we believe you "un named - non public sources"
Just because the devs havnt told the majority of the community dosent mean they havent told some people. Weather you choose to belive me or not is irrevelant.
In the mean time if I choose to work with the correspondant and the community to get our profession playable what is it to you.
I encourage people working to get things done but demanding/posting incorrect information as fact and working to make the professionviableare two completely different things.
If there is a mythical revamp we can still get patches to fix what they brok in the CU in the mean time.
Correct. I never said we couldnt. I did however state that you are incorrect in posting that CH is a tanking class and that we would need a revamp to be completely balanced.
We can either fight for our professionor lay down.
I dont know about the rest of the people here, but I plan on fighting.
Lay down if you want to nut I won't.
Weather or not I have to lay down to do that is entirely dependant on the mood mygirlfriend is in at the moment.Furthermore I dont see how that or your refusal to lay down to do that has anything to do with CH.
Joker9125 wrote:
Scoooter wrote:
Scoooter wrote:
Oh yes I do know you. I have seen many clashes between how you play this game with others. If you look we are on the same server. I have seen for my own eyes what kind of a person you can be and what little respect you have for others.
Are you still mad because I blew up your turrets? Get over it already.
No I am over that, your reasoning for doing it did show me what a childish individual you are and I will just leave it at that. You can be proud of what you did and I am not the type to point out to the world why you did. But you lost a lot of respect from a lot of people that witnessed it and saw for themselves what a pettyacts you did against others for childish reasons.
Scoooter wrote:
No I am over that, your reasoning for doing it did show me what a childish individual you are and I will just leave it at that. You can be proud of what you did and I am not the type to point out to the world why you did. But you lost a lot of respect from a lot of people that witnessed it and saw for themselves what a pettyacts you did against others for childish reasons.
Joker9125 wrote:
Scoooter wrote:
No I am over that, your reasoning for doing it did show me what a childish individual you are and I will just leave it at that. You can be proud of what you did and I am not the type to point out to the world why you did. But you lost a lot of respect from a lot of people that witnessed it and saw for themselves what a pettyacts you did against others for childish reasons.
I may have lost the respect of a few people but as I remember many people also lost respect for your entire guild. And why the heck are we discussing this on this fourm? If you want to discuss and personal issues you may have with me I ask that you please discuss them in game or at least on the valcyn fourms.
You brought it up. And no there was no respect lost for our guild you can make up what you want. If I recall a couple of weeks after so you could boost your own ego you brought it up on this forum.
The incident has yet to be discussed at all except by your bragging thread which I deliberatly did not respond to. And I dont think thats a place where you want to go and get it opened up on the forums because both you and I know why you did what you did.
I would have to say that I can successfully have my pets tank. Here's what I do....
1) Use highest DPS pet and put em in a rage.
2) Let em hit a few times and get a nice aggro going. Since I am fence, I can do bleed and blind in the beginning. The longer the pet is hitting, the harder time I've had in trying to take the aggro AWAY from the pet.
3) Don't spam highdamage attacks. I can do my highdamage attack and if I follow up a 2nd hit right after, I will get aggro. If I let my high damage hits land a little more slowly, I can effectively keep the aggro on the pet. It can also switch back to my pet if I pause to get center of being going. With how fast pets regen, I don't care how low his health is getting as long as it's not gonna be in danger of getting incap. A little more patience during the fight, saves me from having to wait for my health after the fight.