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Thread: If Jedi are gonna complain about drop rates, so am I...

Aakhperkare
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:28 pm
#14

And if anyone has a problem with them no longer being rare. For how few MCH's are left, that wouldmake them rare enough. But no more than 3 or so per a server? It's incredibly stupid, especially considering what actual uses they have. Not to mention the fact thata BE can make a petat a lower CL, in the body of a Gnort that would destroy pretty much any rare tameable. Where's the balance?


It's not like I or many others haven't put forth the effort. We have, and have gotten nothing in return. (well, I can't say nothing, you can get credits :-/)Yet people can still complain about loot drops and their rarity and get away with it. Not only get away with it, but have thedrop rate increased.Why is this any different? Why is it that our "drops" have to remain so incredibly rare? I am not saying make them spawn 1 out of 2 times or something like that. But jesus christ, 8 months later and nothing? It's pathetic...


No one should have to spend that much time trying to get one thing in-game and come up empty handed...
digiwrath
Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:56 am
#15

hmm, looks like the discussion is over.

as the saying goes, the one that has no argument is the one that resorts to name-calling.

so far i haven't heard anything convincing from you, only "i don't have it therefore it has to be more common!". as soon as you can come up with something to truly back up why you think they should be more common besides "i want it because i don't have it", and stop the name calling, we'll have this discussion again.

you're not going to convince anyone to your argument by snapping at them and insulting them. you're the one that's not considering anyone but yourself.







Aakhperkare wrote:
First you give someone a lecture on how to treat their pets, now this.






the irony being that the very animal he was treating like gutter trash is the very one you're complaining about not being able to find. so certainly you'd find it fair that you can't find it while some random person who fell ass-backwards on it after a couple of lairs treats it just horribly?



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TsiyaAma
Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:33 am
#16

AMCH-only pet (CL 65-70) that has light armor, 60% kinetic, 50% energy, with 30% resists across the board (excepting the precious lightsaber damage) 12k HAMand 400-410 damage with maybe dizzy and stun or intimidate would be something that we could use, and would be a badge of the MCH. If it was mountable, and as fast as a swoop, so much the better. Make it rare? Why? How many dedicated MCH's are there? Make it spawn like gnorts, it's not like people are gonna train up to MCH to get one. Would this make up for the lies? No, but it would be fun to have.


Dunno why we few CH's have to argue. We all basically want the same things, more tameables(rare or not), better pets(non-BE), and for someone to acknowledge that we stillexist as a profession. Everything else is gravy, and a matter of personal opinion. The problem, the personality type that leads us to climb the CH tree and keep it means we're very individualistic people, with firm opinions on the profession we love. The solution? Agree to disagree, and direct the energy where it belongs, to the development team. I think we've turned on each other like caged animals with nothing to strike out at. Sorry for the ramble, it's almost 5:30 am, my hunt for my GPS has kept me up way too late lol. <staggers off to bed muttering about those funky C-shaped bushes all over Corellia>



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LaraDarkStar
Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:43 am
#17

Hi guys



To me this whole arguying has no sense. As someone said earlier , it all comes down to the same thing. We all want more babies, and more Master Babies/mount. The whole rare concept is border line acceptable in my opinion, but when you really think about, the only way a Ch or mch will have his trophie is if they actualy go looking for them. You cant macro hunt master/rare pets/ You cant just go see your local BE. and you cant just buy them off the market. Point is its the only profession where you have to go get it yourself. You hunt it, you find it, you tame it.


At master level, there is no reason why lev 50+ babies need to be whining lottery tiket. Your a master your weapons/companions/pets should be available to get.


The second important point, is this: Are the spawns BROKEN or NOT???? random spawn like the GPS or malignant squill seem to frenquently vanish off radar, or in some cases, as it happened to me, vanish in mid combat! And no the squill was not 1km aways from its spawn point, it was about 20m from where it appeared.


To go month and months, 497 lairs of wild/mission lairs for a bull and not ever haven seen a baby....that is ridiculous. And even if i had one, so what, doesnt mean other mch\s cant get one. they earned it.For thefew mch's that are left, so what if they all get a right to tame a bull at master. there is no reason why they should be low in numbers.



-==Fanatic Bull Rancor baby Hunter==-
-== MCH/MPiker ==-
-==Warrior Princess of the Nightsister Clan==-
...has tamed all rare animals except the broken bull rancor! 987 lairs!
Skwall
Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:59 pm
#18

How about this:


If they're that rare make themConsiderably better than the other pets.If you disagree look at the legendary or exceptional weapons that exist in other professions. Yet the CH version of legendary/exceptional pets is just a fewstats higher which doesn't make sense to me. Let alone a few stats higher on a rare pet opposed to A LOT higher stats onexceptional/legendary weaponary.


So if they're not that much better why the rareness, for rarity value? Not like ppl are even using their pets in combat let alone rares due to the inadequetness in combat and bugs that exist atm.


And say you showcase yourrares off in major cities, thanks to griefing @$$3$ you get the casual /pet "sit" /pet "stand" attitude telling you how much respect they have for your profession. ONLY LET THE CH TAMER DO THAT!


Whatever not like what i say matters anyways

-Skwall

MCH/MHS



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Skwall
Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:02 pm
#19


sorry for the nasty font size, i accidentally changed it.


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oh and btw.....i do enjoy the rareness of it, i have several rares, and i love ch, i picked it up about a month ago


but....


if you have a "rare" pet shouldn't it be considerably better?

Message Edited by Skwall on 07-31-2004 07:03 PM



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Aakhperkare
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:01 pm
#20






Skwall wrote:


sorry for the nasty font size, i accidentally changed it.


[edit]


oh and btw.....i do enjoy the rareness of it, i have several rares, and i love ch, i picked it up about a month ago


but....


if you have a "rare" pet shouldn't it be considerably better?

Message Edited by Skwall on 07-31-2004 07:03 PM



That's one of my points. Many of the rares are hardly better than a CL 40 Delerious Merek...a common tameable...

hellrayser21
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:17 pm
#21





I agree with Vertexon's statement. MCH's pursue this badboy because hes considered rare. If hewasn't asrare and just another one of the moreregular creatures, no one would even mention it because more than likely they would be after another hard to find creature, thus having the same problem.


It's unfortunate that Bull Rancors are practically non-existent on your server from what you've told all of us. I wish you well my friend and I'll be rooting for you in hopes that you find what you seek. Take care and have a good one-






TsiyaAma
Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:11 am
#22




hellrayser21 wrote:





I agree with Vertexon's statement. MCH's pursue this badboy because hes considered rare. If hewasn't asrare and just another one of the moreregular creatures, no one would even mention it because more than likely they would be after another hard to find creature, thus having the same problem.


It's unfortunate that Bull Rancors are practically non-existent on your server from what you've told all of us. I wish you well my friend and I'll be rooting for you in hopes that you find what you seek. Take care and have a good one-





MCH's pursue rare critters because SOE can't think of anything else to do for us. They broke our profession, then throw us some "rare" pets that if you're honest aren't worth the time it takes to look up the spawn WP's on SWGcreatures. And who notices the rare critter? Other MCH's who haven't found theirs yet, and the occasional n00b. I'm gonna start hunting for a "rare" scythe...wait...a "rare" dancing enhancement leotard...wait...none of those things are rare...gotta love it...we're falling for their timesink, instead of holo-grinding they're making us chase unicorns. Done with the MCH grind? now you get to grind through 400+ bull lairs and15+ GPS spawns...that should keep you quiet for about 6 months...



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Aakhperkare
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:40 am
#23








TsiyaAma wrote:


MCH's pursue rare critters because SOE can't think of anything else to do for us. They broke our profession, then throw us some "rare" pets that if you're honest aren't worth the time it takes to look up the spawn WP's on SWGcreatures. And who notices the rare critter? Other MCH's who haven't found theirs yet, and the occasional n00b. I'm gonna start hunting for a "rare" scythe...wait...a "rare" dancing enhancement leotard...wait...none of those things are rare...gotta love it...we're falling for their timesink, instead of holo-grinding they're making us chase unicorns. Done with the MCH grind? now you get to grind through 400+ bull lairs and15+ GPS spawns...that should keep you quiet for about 6 months...






Amen to that.


What exactly in this game, other than unlocking your Jedi is more rare than what CH's have? NOTHING. Everything else can be purchased. Us? We have to drudge out for months and months to getjust ONE of the fewthings that were given to us in exchange for nerfing us into isolation...


Aakhperkare
Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:21 am
#24





rancor


Armor Rating:Light


Special Protection


Kinetic30.0%


Energy30.0%


Heat60.0%


Cold60.0%


Electricity60.0%


Effectiveness


Vulnerability


Blast-


Stun-


Lightsaber-


Acid-


Aggressive:Yes


Stalker:Yes


Has Babies:Yes


Deathblows:Yes


Ferocity:10


Difficulty Level:50


Special Attack 1:Stunning Strike


Special Attack 2:Intimidation


Base-To-Hit:0.5Damage:420-550


Attack Speed:2









bull rancor


Armor Rating:Light


Special Protection


Kinetic35.0%


Energy60.0%


Heat80.0%


Cold80.0%


Electricity80.0%


Effectiveness


Blast15.0%


Stun15.0%


Acid15.0%


Vulnerability


Lightsaber-


Aggressive:Yes


Stalker:No


Has Babies:Yes


Deathblows:Yes


Ferocity:11


Difficulty Level:65


Special Attack 1:Plague Strike


Special Attack 2:Dizzy Strike


Base-To-Hit:0.6


Damage:455-620


Attack Speed:2









Now someone please explain to me the rationale for a Bull Rancor to be the most rare tameable.


And I don't mean camping the AC in Sro rare, (for those of you that played EQ) I mean going on 9 months rare...well over a thousand rancors dead rare...over 400 lairs destroyed rare.


How is this supposed to be fun? Where is the risk vs. reward here? What is the point of rares other than a status symbol among CH's, because no one else would care besides a newbie.


It's not like I (and many others) are whining without having put forth the effort. We have. And for most of us I am sure (I know for me anyways) it's pretty much all we do when we log on. We put forth the effort to find this one rare tameable and continue to come up empty handed, day after day month after month.


It's a load of crap...



(Edited for grammer and spelling)

Message Edited by Aakhperkare on 08-03-2004 11:30 AM

P9M
Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:25 am
#25

Aakh,

I can really grasp what you stated.

CH's we are nerfing you but you can expect:

Some wonderful rares and extincts back. These either are not spawning or have lottery like odds of spawning.

Master CH will mean something. You get to train useless mounts.

A combat rebalance in January or Febuary. 2004 or 2005?
P9M
Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:29 am
#26

LOL. OMG.

I stayed in South Ro for a month. I gave up. There was always someone who would give me a SOW. The Chanter Epic was easier to get than Journeyman Boots.
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