Creature Handler Archive

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Savagefirebug wrote:
grrr... looks like i might be respec-ing CH away after all

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You are going to have to hurry. Respec ends most any day. May have already ended

-Indene-

To be quite honest, everything I've seen in-game so far regarding pre-CU BE pets is you might as well destroy them or use them as they convert and just realize that's how they're going to be. I know that's not what people want to hear, but it's really how they're turning out. The conversion process did not go all that well for a lot of them, and wild pets tend to be just as good or better. And I know they adjusted some wild stats (according to the patch notes today) so it doesn't entirely surprise me that they are readjusting the pre-CU BE pets again as well (even ones that were already called/adjusted, which I assumed wouldn't be touched).

Also, that CL 10 pet you mentioned was one of the extremely overpowered ones made with the flawed BE crafting system... a non-CH pet should never have that much health, else it invalidates CH as a profession. 1.7K after today's patch seems much more reasonable to me for something anyone can use.

You will also note that the pets seem to have converted to Health = 100 x CL. A level 56 pet will have ~5600 health. A level 70 should have 7000. That seems to be the intent, which is why your pets reconverted again. Wild pets on the average, with some exceptions, follow generally the same expectation. A level 60ish pet should have 6000ish Health. Things like the Female Narglatch are desireable pets because they have exceptional stats for their CL.

That being said, the new BE system with Publish 17 has some serious potential, and hopefully newly crafted BE pets will be excellent. We'll have to wait and see what kind of results people are getting, but with the aggro bonuses, resists, etc, I think we'll find a lot of use out of newly crafted BE pets.

I've still raised the issue with the pre-CU BE pets and the conversion process so don't worry, the issue isn't abandoned, but I'm not sure what, if anything, will be able to be done. That's up to the dev team.

Take that for what you will, but personally I made room in my datapad for new wild pets and hopefully new BE pets and moved on. My BE pets converted to average at best so I decided it was time for a change.

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Ko-aIri wrote:
That being said, the new BE system with Publish 17 has some serious potential, and hopefully newly crafted BE pets will be excellent.

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Ko-a, even if that's true, why would anyone invest credits in 'excellent' new BE pets, only to have them taken away in a future dev bait & switch like we just encountered? We get zero input in these decisions, they're dropped on us with zero explanation, and then it's just 'oh, make the best of it.' This is just a backdoor way of getting paying customers to spend a few more spins on the grinding wheel, taking away things they already paid for and making them pay for them again in hopes they'll ignore how broken the systems are and how devoid of content most of the game has become.

And ... what's the deal with pet speed, is this a bug or working as intended? Inquiring minds STILL want to know.

GREAT TIVO'S GHOST!!!!!

Does this mean that the some of the CH community might ((gulp)) have to ((shudder)) go out into the wild ((whimper)) and work for some worth while pets?!? ((faint))

With all the extra time spent out in the bush, where oh where will they find the time to log into the message boards and flagellate the terminated equine of previously reported bugs and thoroughly documented nerfs?!?!?!

A dark day indeed........flagellate terminated equine

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Hazarstanagge wrote:

GREAT TIVO'S GHOST!!!!!

Does this mean that the some of the CH community might ((gulp)) have to ((shudder)) go out into the wild ((whimper)) and work for some worth while pets?!? ((faint))

With all the extra time spent out in the bush, where oh where will they find the time to log into the message boards and flagellate the terminated equine of previously reported bugs and thoroughly documented nerfs?!?!?!

A dark day indeed........flagellate terminated equine

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Yup, I'm hip.

How are the next generation of franken-critters commin along anyhoo?

From whatI have seen to date, the differences between a Bio eng pet and a Creature handler pet are pretty narrow now?

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" I have preferred BE pets over Wild ones due to the fact that they have always done more damage. I have tracked, found, and tamed all the past greats with the exception of the malignant squill, dune boar, and bull rancor. My pad is full of BE's due to the fact that I have gladly given away all the rares I have ever caught cuz I prefer the higher ham/dmg BE pets. The thrill is in the hunt and I keep no trophy pets. Any CH that knows me on Sunrunner knows how many times I have helped them find the elusive ones. There are a few elites that do some good damage... I believe the Greater Plains Stalker does 513max... and unless they change the spawns of the creatures now... kiss findin one of them goodbye. My BE's did less damage than them, and cuz they have to conform to the standard of wild pets of being weak... we'll my BE made pet got the bat! That aint right! I'm not a collector of pets in any way or form. If they wanted us to be collectors maybe they should think of changin the name to "MPC"... aka Master Pet Collector."

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Its all about "Function" or "Form",

Do it with style or embrace the Norm.

Do Ihunt a Tank ?

Or hit the bank?

Face to face with trouble?

Or Watch a clone tube Bubble?

Whichever you choose,I have a friend to stay.

Hows that franken-pet respec workin for ya anyway?

Awwww I wrote you a poem!! weeeeeeeee!

Message Edited by Hazarstanagge on 05-26-2005 07:07 PM

I'd advise something stronger then beer... Whisky, Cognac...

Just to wash away the bad taste"you-know-who's-responsible-for-handling-the-nerfbat" leave behind!

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Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:

I'd advise something stronger then beer... Whisky, Cognac...

Just to wash away the bad taste "you-know-who's-responsible-for-handling-the-nerfbat" leave behind!

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Preferably something that impairs long-term memory, otherwise why waste time on finding 'good' pets that are tomorrow's trashbin material at the whim of some clown who doesn't even understand the project he's directing?

Message Edited by Spir4 on 05-27-2005 08:02 AM

Spir4

Many of us CHs were here at the start of SWG as CHs.

You point has been discussed many times but the majority still want CH to have some decent combat potential.

Even SOE promised it!!

It's fine if they decide pets are just going to be fun little "decorations" and not worth while in combat. If they want to do that, I have no problem with it.

HOWEVER, then I want most or all of my skill points back. If I am going to pay the same # of skill points and have to grind the same # of experience points as any other elite combat prof, then CH should be just as useful as any other elite combat prof. Don't want it to be useful? Fine... don't charge me the skill points. Make it zero skill points like pilot, or 1 point per box like they are going to do (already did?) with Image Designer.

Charging me "full elite combat profession" cost in XP and skill points and then saying, "Oh but it's not REALLY a combat prof" is not acceptable.

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