Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Mounted Combat I want it back!
What we have here ... is a failure to communicate.
ArchiieBarrett wrote:
Ayami-Ayami wrote:
i wanna shoot stormies while on my lizard
and then have him step on them
I think thats the thing...
Only CH should have mounted COMBAT......I mean we can control our pets, we are the handlers, right?.. I like the idea that you get pet terrain negotiation and speed as you level CH... that would help, this way a master has fast moving mounts that he can battle on, making mounts 100X more useful. And when a CH is on a mount, the CH doesnt get hit (unless the enemy uses area attacks) until the mount is incaped, this way they function as sort of a tank, unlike speeders. They should NOT slow down for combat and the gallop timer should increase as you go up the CH tree as well, from like 30 seconds to 2 min gallop.
I don't feel comfortable with the idea of an unhittable rider. That sounds too much like a return of the "meat shield" issue. The logical thing to me would be to lobby for some sort of split ratio between what actually gets hit when an enemy attacks a mounted rider. Perhaps the single target (either the rider or the mount) could be targeted manually by using the TAB key, or -- at least theoretically -- by clicking on one of them with the mouse arrow, but a precise mouse click on a moving target would be difficult.
At any rate, I'm thinking some sort of modifier on whether the shooter hits the object he has targeted or the other object (rider or mount) could either be done with a simple 50-50 split or made more complex, with modifiers based on the relative size of the mount vs. the rider's size, and attacker accuracy modifiers factored in. And maybe some mounts might be more fragile while carrying a rider -- such as flying mounts, if they're ever implemented. This would be a tradeoff for the higher speed and battlefield vision gained by riding a flyer in combat.
Yeah, basic attacks only for non-CH's -- but has anyone noticed that CH's get no special attacks for themselves in our profession tree? Mounted-combat specials would fit nicely in either the Management branch (the home of the "Train Pet As Mount" skill) or the Empathy branch. After all, it took a lot of training to get war horses used to combat, both in the middle ages and in the age of firearms.
-Castigar- wrote:
I don't necessarily agree with CH being the only ones to be able to attack from a mount but your other ideas are great. I would support, however, having all non-CH only able to do their basic attack (ranged hit, melee hit, saber hit) and then CH can use all their specials. Seems that would add a great deal to being a CH and I think you'd see a serious revival of the use of mounts as well as being a CH. Could allow master level CH's to use their specials AND have their mount attack as well...now that would be cool.
I'd be happy with just the default /attack for the weapon you are holding. Just...for once...
to be able to pull the trigger of my flame thrower or heavy lightning rifle when those
snakes in Kkowir forest slows down my Varactyl or Bolotaur.
I'm not a CH by the way, but I do miss mounted combat. Oh, and I was CH for about 4-5
months on Farstar. Happy times.
ArchiieBarrett wrote:
Only CH should have mounted COMBAT......I mean we can control our pets, we are the handlers, right?.. I like the idea that you get pet terrain negotiation and speed as you level CH... that would help, this way a master has fast moving mounts that he can battle on, making mounts 100X more useful. And when a CH is on a mount, the CH doesnt get hit (unless the enemy uses area attacks) until the mount is incaped, this way they function as sort of a tank, unlike speeders. They should NOT slow down for combat and the gallop timer should increase as you go up the CH tree as well, from like 30 seconds to 2 min gallop.
